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Gino Ianucci · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: Berate my play! Two hands, 10NL

Don't hold back now, tough love is the order of the day.

This first hand, i was inspired by an article on positional aggression OTT, it was probably a bit silly to think they were both being honest and not hiding a pair of queens, as is typical at 10NL, so much ridiculous slow playing going on.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, $3 Betting Cap, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: $4.60
Hero (SB): $5.90
BB: $5
UTG: $7.80
UTG+1: $12.10
UTG+2: $5
MP1: $5.75
MP2: $3.55
CO: $11.15

Pre-Flop: J

K

dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, BB calls $0.40, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60) Q

5

3

(3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks

Turn: ($1.60) J

(3 Players)
Hero bets $0.80, BB folds, MP2 calls $0.80

River: ($3.20) 4

(2 Players)
Hero bets $1, MP2 calls $1

I don't know what to make of my PF call in this next hand, on the turn I was thinking 8 outs was enough to call this, yay or nay?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, $3 Betting Cap, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

MP1: $8.05
MP2: $5.65
CO: $10.45
BTN: $3.80
SB: $3.85
Hero (BB): $4.75
UTG: $4.85
UTG+1: $5.50

Pre-Flop:

dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.20, MP2 calls $0.20, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.65)

(3 Players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks

Turn: ($0.65)

(3 Players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $0.20, MP2 calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

River: ($1.25)

(3 Players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks

I recall a saying, "He who asks a question is stupid for a minute, while he who doesn't is stupid forever"....or something like that, I'll keep that in mind when reading your replies Smile

HuJwang · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject:

hand 1: you're out of position, so i'm not too sure what you mean by "positional aggression". i wouldn't raise preflop as your hand just isn't that great. i'd limp to see a flop. postflop i'd probably just check the turn. it's $3 cap so how are you going to respond to a raise?

hand 2: don't see any reason to play this hand differently.

also it would help if you included suits and reads.

Gino Ianucci · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject:

Edited to include suits, I mistakely copied the HH preview rather than the text, no reads, these are at two diferent tables I'd only just sat down at.

[quote="HuJwang"]hand 1: you're out of position, so i'm not too sure what you mean by "positional aggression". i wouldn't raise preflop as your quote]

Touche', I guess I was just seeing how they'd react to aggression on the turn in general.

Flying_Kiwi · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject:

Hand 1: Just limp PF. On the turn I might bet closer to the pot, $1.20-1.50. As played, I probably check the river and might call a smallish bet.

Hand 2: Seems fine.

Riddim · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:37 am Post subject:

Hand 1 I just complete PF. On the turn I think bet/folding kinda small is probably good because you get called by worse jacks and flush draws so often, but on the river I don't like betting as much because other than a worse J there really isn't much that could pay you off.

Hand 2 is fine I guess, given the odds you're getting. If someone makes a significant bet on the turn it's a fold though, because none of your outs are clean.

StevieWard · Message Board Junkie Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 1415

I agree with all the above, the only thing I may think about is making a small value bet on the river in hand 2.

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