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shortydawg · Pair Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 40 Location: Maine, USA

Full Tilt Poker Game #6731640421: Table Sweetgum (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:42:52 ET - 2008/06/07
Seat 1: SiKenD04 ($330)
Seat 2: shortydawg ($249.10)
Seat 3: TWPMentor ($128.35)
Seat 4: jscm ($242.40)
Seat 5: llGotPhshll ($200)
Seat 6: qbbearcat ($261.85)
llGotPhshll posts the small blind of $1
qbbearcat posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shortydawg [As Qs]
SiKenD04 folds
shortydawg calls $2
TWPMentor folds
TWPMentor is sitting out
jscm raises to $9
llGotPhshll has 15 seconds left to act
llGotPhshll adds $1
llGotPhshll folds
qbbearcat calls $7
shortydawg raises to $37
jscm folds
qbbearcat calls $28
*** FLOP *** [3s 9c Ac]
qbbearcat checks
shortydawg bets $52
qbbearcat calls $52
*** TURN *** [3s 9c Ac] [5c]
qbbearcat bets $172.85, and is all in
shortydawg has 15 seconds left to act
shortydawg has requested TIME
shortydawg folds
Uncalled bet of $172.85 returned to qbbearcat
qbbearcat mucks
qbbearcat wins the pot ($185)

Normally I would not limp/raise with a hand like AQs but the 2 players to my left had been playing very aggressively with position preflop. When qdbearcat shoved instantly on the turn my first instinct was that I have to be beat. But after I folded I was thinking there was a good chance he had a weaker A with a club. What does everyone think?

cardfish2 · Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject:

Heavy action in a multi player pot makes this an easy fold.

lovebeefstew · Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject:

I would lean towards folding too but then again ive never been close to limits as hi as this so its hard for me to comment lol.

renegades8 · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:01 am Post subject:

Please convert your hands next time. There's a sticky at the top of the section that includes links to sites that do it for you. It makes it much easier to read things like position, stacks, pot, players in the hand, etc.

Raise preflop, regardless of whether or not they've been playing aggressively. After you limped and got raised, just call and play a smaller pot OOP. It's way too spewy to do that with AQs imo, especially OOP after you've limped. Maybe bet a bit more on the flop, not a huge deal though. Folding the turn seems like the right play (although it shouldn't be like a snap fold), you're too deep in comparison to the pot, and I really doubt you're ahead of his range (considering he raised/called a 3bet preflop). Even though his shove looks somewhat weak, it still could be a set or AK just trying to take the pot down there and it also looks kinda weak so that way he might get you to call lighter.

Honest_Rob · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:09 am Post subject:

Just open raise your AQ for value if the guys behind you are loose. Limp raising AQ is not a good idea. It's not AA/KK. I'm having a really hard time putting BB on a range because I can't really think of many hands he's going to just flat a raise to $9 with and then flat again when the open limper re-raises. I guess something like small to mid pairs and AK/AQ maybe. I guess he could have suited connectors too. There doesn't seem to be much logic to his play. I don't know but it's totally spewy and I really have no idea what to do on the turn now. Limp raising with the AQ was a bad idea because you created a big pot with a hand that could easily be second best.

jesse6520 · Four of a Kind Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 334

why bet so small on the flop?

StevieWard · Message Board Junkie Joined: 12 Jul 2007 Posts: 1415

I get your reasons as described, but i never ever limp in 6 max - with your re-raise you could be mistaken for representing something like AA. As it stands you have to go with it - weird hand.

Swierad · Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject:

yes i would have folded also, but bet bigger PF w/ AK,AQ,AJ. a little unlucky on your side, its bad when 3 suited come up and you have pair of aces. he limped in with A(x)s 9(x)s im guessing. he must have atleast a pair to make that call.

shortydawg · Pair Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 40 Location: Maine, USA

Thanks for the responses guys. I also believe my limp r/r was an odd play and won't happen again. The biggest reason that led to me folding was the range of hands he did have that beat me I was virtually dead against and the hands i could still beat could probably easily outdraw me on the river.

shortydawg · Pair Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 40 Location: Maine, USA

Another thing i failed to mention and i dont know why is that roughly 10 hands earlier i had limp reraised w/ KK and shown it down. This was going into my thinking as well. Not sure how observant this oppenent was however

Riddim · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject:

Stop openlimping. Also, having limpraised KK and shown it earlier just makes this worse if it means they'll be giving you more credit. You'll end up folding out that hands you want action from. As played I call the turn because people show up with so many retarded hands here and the only one of those I'm worried about is AxKc.

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