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jesse6520
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: three hands... confusion...you get the point. 10nl. Reply with quote

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Converter Tool from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($20)
Hero ($9.85)
SB ($19.80)
BB ($20)
UTG ($10)
MP ($10.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 5.
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.3, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20.

Flop: ($0.65) Q, 3, 4 (3 players)
BB bets $0.65, Hero raises to $2.3, BB raises to $20.35 (All-In), Hero?

given a range its pretty simple stove i just want to hear some ranges....






hand 2


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Converter Tool from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($4.30)
Button ($14.65)
Hero ($11.30)
BB ($10)
UTG ($2.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T, T.
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, Button raises to $0.45, Hero raises to $1.45, 1 fold, MP folds, Button calls $0.95.

Flop: ($3.05) 6, 3, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.3, Button calls $2.30.

Turn: ($7.65) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.1, Button raises to $8.2, Hero calls $3.50 (All-In).


villain had been raising a lot of btns. thats all the reads...standard?
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Honest_Rob



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hand 1: is a call. I think his range is probably something like QQ+, 33, 44, Xd Xd(suited connector/gapper) and maybe KdQx

Hand 2: As played is a call. I think rather than bet $4.10 OTT though I'd just shove. It's a pot sized bet.
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jesse6520
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow im dumb, didnt notice gutshot in hand one. Assuming that i dont have the gutshot though like lets say i have Ad 8x can i call in hand one?
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esperz
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1.) I'd fold, his range is trips, KQ, AQ, or KJ of diamonds. I like the raise (although not really a 3x raise), but he's showing he's not very afraid of top pair. This, in my mind, limits his range to what I mentioned earlier. And a gutshot does very, very little to influence the decision either way.

2.) Crying call.
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Honest_Rob



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

esperz wrote:
1.) And a gutshot does very, very little to influence the decision either way.


Actually it does influence the decision. It adds up to four extra outs with two to come when villain is on any other hand then a made flush.


jesse6520 wrote:
wow im dumb, didnt notice gutshot in hand one. Assuming that i dont have the gutshot though like lets say i have Ad 8x can i call in hand one?


Without the gutshot I think it's really close to just about even either way. I think I'd have to lean one way or the other based on any reads I had. If I think he'll do this somewhat light then I'd probably be more likely to call especially if I thought that pairing my Ace might ever be good. If he was tighter and only did this on a set/flush then I'd probably fold.
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StevieWard
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hand 1 i probably fold as he may already have a flush, or at lease a set which means you need to hit your diamond to win.

Hand 2 looks fine.
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Swierad
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hand 1. well he either has 2 suited, one d, A2,or bluffing. you have a flush and a straight going and the always possible pair(s). if it was you and opp id call. but 3 players makes less pos. outs. i would fold.
hand 2. good call. chance you might get FH. he prob got pair 8 and trying to make you fold. doubt he got 8-3 almost all ppl fold that. or he had (x)/8-6 and was trapping.
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Honest_Rob



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swierad wrote:
doubt he got 8-3 almost all ppl fold that.


Hero beats 83.
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