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cubbies760
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 Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: A Few Stud H/L Hands |
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Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker Game #6657883821: Table Andy Bloch - $1/$2 Ante $0.20 - Limit Stud H/L - 22:13:29 ET - 2008/06/01
Seat 2: cubbies760 ($19.80)
Seat 3: TOFFEE74 ($23.35)
Seat 5: vivalablue ($16.55)
Seat 6: Zophar ($32.15)
Seat 7: VincentVaughn ($30.45)
Seat 8: Ben Lamb1 ($13.20)
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to VincentVaughn [5s]
Dealt to Ben Lamb1 [Jh]
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5d] [7s]
Dealt to TOFFEE74 [Ts]
Dealt to vivalablue [Kd]
Dealt to Zophar [Qh]
VincentVaughn is low with [5s]
VincentVaughn brings in for $0.25
Ben Lamb1 folds
cubbies760 calls $0.25 ....should I complete?
TOFFEE74 folds
vivalablue folds
Zophar folds
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to VincentVaughn [5s] [Qs]
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5d 7s] [Kc]
cubbies760 checks
VincentVaughn checks
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to VincentVaughn [5s Qs] [Ad]
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5d 7s Kc] [5h]
VincentVaughn checks
cubbies760 checks ....should I bet here?
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to VincentVaughn [5s Qs Ad] [Qd]
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5d 7s Kc 5h] [Td]
VincentVaughn bets $2
cubbies760 folds
Hand #2
This hand really bothered me. I have a decent low start, so I'm assuming I don't want to push this because I want it to be a multi-way pot, if possible. Once it gets HU on 4th street, I have a low draw, as well as a straight draw. I think I should have been pushing him here. Will he ever fold here, seeing that he's probably competing for 1/2 the pot?
I really don't know what's right in this scenario.
Full Tilt Poker Game #6658210630: Table Andy Bloch - $1/$2 Ante $0.20 - Limit Stud H/L - 22:38:09 ET - 2008/06/01
Seat 1: zubs1aa ($63.95)
Seat 2: cubbies760 ($27.25)
Seat 3: TOFFEE74 ($13.20)
Seat 5: vivalablue ($22.85)
Seat 6: Zophar ($23.80)
Seat 7: Manhat10ite ($57.55)
Seat 8: Ben Lamb1 ($41.90)
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5h] [7h]
Dealt to TOFFEE74 [8c]
Dealt to vivalablue [Kd]
Dealt to Zophar [6h]
Dealt to Manhat10ite [Qd]
Dealt to Ben Lamb1 [Td]
Dealt to zubs1aa [9c]
Zophar is low with [6h]
Zophar brings in for $0.25
Manhat10ite completes it to $1
Ben Lamb1 folds
zubs1aa folds
cubbies760 calls $1
TOFFEE74 folds
vivalablue folds
Zophar calls $0.75
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5h 7h] [4d]
Dealt to Zophar [6h] [Qs]
Dealt to Manhat10ite [Qd] [4s]
Zophar checks
Manhat10ite bets $1
cubbies760 calls $1
Zophar folds
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5h 7h 4d] [9h]
Dealt to Manhat10ite [Qd 4s] [6s]
Manhat10ite bets $2
cubbies760 calls $2
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5h 7h 4d 9h] [3h]
Dealt to Manhat10ite [Qd 4s 6s] [9s]
Manhat10ite bets $2
cubbies760 calls $2
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5h 7h 4d 9h 3h] [5s]
Manhat10ite checks
cubbies760 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Manhat10ite shows [Qh 6d Qd 4s 6s 9s 4h] two pair, Queens and Sixes, for high
cubbies760 mucks
Manhat10ite wins the pot ($13.90) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
No low hand qualified
Hand #3
Another weird hand, imo. I'm trying to disguise my nice starting hand, and it gets better on 4th street. I figured I'd let him to the betting until 5th/6th street, when the bets are bigger, and where I (hopefully) hit at least my low.
Full Tilt Poker Game #6658253239: Table Andy Bloch - $1/$2 Ante $0.20 - Limit Stud H/L - 22:41:22 ET - 2008/06/01
Seat 1: zubs1aa ($64.35)
Seat 2: cubbies760 ($22.50)
Seat 3: TOFFEE74 ($15.10)
Seat 5: vivalablue ($21.20)
Seat 6: Zophar ($22.30)
Seat 7: Manhat10ite ($64.05)
Seat 8: Ben Lamb1 ($40.50)
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [5h 2c] [3s]
Dealt to TOFFEE74 [Ac]
Dealt to vivalablue [5c]
Dealt to Zophar [Qc]
Dealt to Manhat10ite [9s]
Dealt to Ben Lamb1 [8d]
Dealt to zubs1aa [Qd]
cubbies760 is low with [3s]
cubbies760 brings in for $0.25
TOFFEE74 completes it to $1
vivalablue folds
Zophar folds
Manhat10ite folds
Ben Lamb1 folds
zubs1aa folds
cubbies760 calls $0.75
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [5h 2c 3s] [As]
Dealt to TOFFEE74 [Ac] [2d]
cubbies760 checks
TOFFEE74 bets $1
cubbies760 calls $1
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [5h 2c 3s As] [9h]
Dealt to TOFFEE74 [Ac 2d] [Tc]
TOFFEE74 bets $2
cubbies760 calls $2 ....I'm thinking this should be a raise
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [5h 2c 3s As 9h] [Kc]
Dealt to TOFFEE74 [Ac 2d Tc] [Ks]
TOFFEE74 bets $2
cubbies760 calls $2
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [5h 2c 3s As 9h Kc] [Kh]
TOFFEE74 checks
cubbies760 checks ....do I bluff here?
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TOFFEE74 shows [Td 5s Ac 2d Tc Ks 3h] a pair of Tens, for high
cubbies760 shows [Kh 5h 3s As 9h Kc 2c] a pair of Kings, for high
cubbies760 wins the pot ($12.90) with a pair of Kings
No low hand qualified |
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Zophar
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: Re: A Few Stud H/L Hands |
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| cubbies760 wrote: |
Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker Game #6657883821: Table Andy Bloch - $1/$2 Ante $0.20 - Limit Stud H/L - 22:13:29 ET - 2008/06/01
Seat 2: cubbies760 ($19.80)
Seat 3: TOFFEE74 ($23.35)
Seat 5: vivalablue ($16.55)
Seat 6: Zophar ($32.15)
Seat 7: VincentVaughn ($30.45)
Seat 8: Ben Lamb1 ($13.20)
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to VincentVaughn [5s]
Dealt to Ben Lamb1 [Jh]
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5d] [7s]
Dealt to TOFFEE74 [Ts]
Dealt to vivalablue [Kd]
Dealt to Zophar [Qh]
VincentVaughn is low with [5s]
VincentVaughn brings in for $0.25
Ben Lamb1 folds
cubbies760 calls $0.25 ....should I complete? |
No, imo. The only thing you often end up doing here is isolating vs. a high hand, which you are a dog against.
| cubbies760 wrote: |
TOFFEE74 folds
vivalablue folds
Zophar folds
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to VincentVaughn [5s] [Qs]
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5d 7s] [Kc]
cubbies760 checks
VincentVaughn checks
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to VincentVaughn [5s Qs] [Ad]
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5d 7s Kc] [5h]
VincentVaughn checks
cubbies760 checks ....should I bet here? |
I would against specific players, mostly those who play alot of razz hands. Aaand in these situations, where he's just brought in. Often I'll bet 4th in these situations, after the high hands are out. The ante's can picked up frequently.
| cubbies760 wrote: |
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to VincentVaughn [5s Qs Ad] [Qd]
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5d 7s Kc 5h] [Td]
VincentVaughn bets $2
cubbies760 folds
Hand #2
This hand really bothered me. I have a decent low start, so I'm assuming I don't want to push this because I want it to be a multi-way pot, if possible. Once it gets HU on 4th street, I have a low draw, as well as a straight draw. I think I should have been pushing him here. Will he ever fold here, seeing that he's probably competing for 1/2 the pot? |
Most players aren't folding here(4th, HU) and with 2 major cards for your high hand out, you are still drawing pretty light. Losing the 3rd 6 on 5th didn't help, but you then picked up the FD, which to me isn't enough to jam anyways. Jamming 4th especially is often a mistake in this situation, imo. Fine as played.
| cubbies760 wrote: |
I really don't know what's right in this scenario.
Full Tilt Poker Game #6658210630: Table Andy Bloch - $1/$2 Ante $0.20 - Limit Stud H/L - 22:38:09 ET - 2008/06/01
Seat 1: zubs1aa ($63.95)
Seat 2: cubbies760 ($27.25)
Seat 3: TOFFEE74 ($13.20)
Seat 5: vivalablue ($22.85)
Seat 6: Zophar ($23.80)
Seat 7: Manhat10ite ($57.55)
Seat 8: Ben Lamb1 ($41.90)
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5h] [7h]
Dealt to TOFFEE74 [8c]
Dealt to vivalablue [Kd]
Dealt to Zophar [6h]
Dealt to Manhat10ite [Qd]
Dealt to Ben Lamb1 [Td]
Dealt to zubs1aa [9c]
Zophar is low with [6h]
Zophar brings in for $0.25
Manhat10ite completes it to $1
Ben Lamb1 folds
zubs1aa folds
cubbies760 calls $1
TOFFEE74 folds
vivalablue folds
Zophar calls $0.75
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5h 7h] [4d]
Dealt to Zophar [6h] [Qs]
Dealt to Manhat10ite [Qd] [4s]
Zophar checks
Manhat10ite bets $1
cubbies760 calls $1
Zophar folds
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5h 7h 4d] [9h]
Dealt to Manhat10ite [Qd 4s] [6s]
Manhat10ite bets $2
cubbies760 calls $2
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5h 7h 4d 9h] [3h]
Dealt to Manhat10ite [Qd 4s 6s] [9s]
Manhat10ite bets $2
cubbies760 calls $2
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [3d 5h 7h 4d 9h 3h] [5s]
Manhat10ite checks
cubbies760 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Manhat10ite shows [Qh 6d Qd 4s 6s 9s 4h] two pair, Queens and Sixes, for high
cubbies760 mucks
Manhat10ite wins the pot ($13.90) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
No low hand qualified
Hand #3
Another weird hand, imo. I'm trying to disguise my nice starting hand, and it gets better on 4th street. I figured I'd let him to the betting until 5th/6th street, when the bets are bigger, and where I (hopefully) hit at least my low.
Full Tilt Poker Game #6658253239: Table Andy Bloch - $1/$2 Ante $0.20 - Limit Stud H/L - 22:41:22 ET - 2008/06/01
Seat 1: zubs1aa ($64.35)
Seat 2: cubbies760 ($22.50)
Seat 3: TOFFEE74 ($15.10)
Seat 5: vivalablue ($21.20)
Seat 6: Zophar ($22.30)
Seat 7: Manhat10ite ($64.05)
Seat 8: Ben Lamb1 ($40.50)
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [5h 2c] [3s]
Dealt to TOFFEE74 [Ac]
Dealt to vivalablue [5c]
Dealt to Zophar [Qc]
Dealt to Manhat10ite [9s]
Dealt to Ben Lamb1 [8d]
Dealt to zubs1aa [Qd]
cubbies760 is low with [3s]
cubbies760 brings in for $0.25
TOFFEE74 completes it to $1
vivalablue folds
Zophar folds
Manhat10ite folds
Ben Lamb1 folds
zubs1aa folds
cubbies760 calls $0.75
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [5h 2c 3s] [As]
Dealt to TOFFEE74 [Ac] [2d]
cubbies760 checks
TOFFEE74 bets $1
cubbies760 calls $1
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [5h 2c 3s As] [9h]
Dealt to TOFFEE74 [Ac 2d] [Tc]
TOFFEE74 bets $2
cubbies760 calls $2 ....I'm thinking this should be a raise |
I'd raise 4th. You have a great draw and it will define his hand a bit more. Not raising 4th and then raising here is not good, imo. If you are both A high, he is ahead. If he has any pair, he is ahead. Don't start building the pot with the info that you now have, as he's rarely folding.
| cubbies760 wrote: |
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [5h 2c 3s As 9h] [Kc]
Dealt to TOFFEE74 [Ac 2d Tc] [Ks]
TOFFEE74 bets $2
cubbies760 calls $2
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to cubbies760 [5h 2c 3s As 9h Kc] [Kh]
TOFFEE74 checks
cubbies760 checks ....do I bluff here? |
Player specific. Being KK doesn't really make it a bluff, but more a value bet. I think checking here by default is reasonable. Some players will check unimproved aces.
| cubbies760 wrote: |
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TOFFEE74 shows [Td 5s Ac 2d Tc Ks 3h] a pair of Tens, for high
cubbies760 shows [Kh 5h 3s As 9h Kc 2c] a pair of Kings, for high
cubbies760 wins the pot ($12.90) with a pair of Kings
No low hand qualified |
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