Online Poker Forum - Bankroll and Sit Down Amount, for Stud - Stud 8

Bengals Fan13 · Pair Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 40

I've looked, but cant seem to find any information on bankroll suggestions for 7 Stud, or how much you should sit with? I "thought" Devilfishfan had made a post asking the same question, but for the life of me I cant find it. Very Happy

Anyways, I was curious if the bankroll (for which limit to play) was different for 7 stud, due to the extra betting streets then hold em limit. (Hold Em has basically 4 betting rounds, where Stud has 5) Does this make a difference, or can you use the HE guidelines for what limit to play. (300 Big bets, is that right?)

Also, when you sit, what would *you* sit with? I know you should have enough to cap every street if needed, but what do you usually sit with? Just for example, at the .25/.50 Stud table, min is 5 dollars, but max is your whole bankroll Very Happy

I've been trying to sit with twice the min, so I dont feel "short stacked" and have a bit of bad beat/unlucky cards room.

Appreciate any help. Thank you. Smile

KGBlovesOreos · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:04 am Post subject:

well, for a .25/.50 game, i recommend having a bankroll of $300-$400 (leaning towards $400)...

as for how much you should sit down with, i think sitting down w/ $25 at a .25/.50 is good enough... obviously, the more the better, but i think $25 is sufficient...

guitarguy178 · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:23 am Post subject:

Stud can be a very high varience game, so obviously you want to have more of a bankroll than you do for games like hold'em. At a .25/.50 game, I will usually sit with about $20. Also, try to keep around 20 buy ins in your bankroll, so I am going to agree with KGB and say about $400. You can do it with less, but this is a safe number to keep you from ever going broke.

Bengals Fan13 · Pair Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 40

Thank you both very much. So basically, it's 800 BB (Big bets) roughly, before your bank roll is sufficient to move up levels? Appreciate the info. Smile

KGBlovesOreos · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:55 am Post subject: Re:

JetsFan28 · Royal Flush Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 799 Location: NY

nice guitar on becoming a forum pro guess ur replacing jaconda

moose37849 · Straight Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 118

interesting, i sit with 10 and will play .25/.5 with 100 roll...... i find stud is less variance than nl hold em. am i wrong? or does my tight as hell style greatly cut into the variance of stud?

Kloaked Spirit · Royal Flush Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 869

Stud would have higher variance because people will have better odds to chase draws/improve their hands to beat you. Therefore you can expect more people rivering you or beating you on 6th street, or you find yourself having the odds to chase and miss a lot, etc. However to make up for it, the people that play low level 7CS are usually awful.

michaellewis · Flush Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 126

I've never been much for full ring Stud.. My guess is it's pretty high variance. I usually play anywhere from HU - 4handed. You can beat the game but expect some swings.

EDIT: If you are looking for a low variance game check out Omaha H/L, Lots of pot splitting and donks letting you scoop monsters off them.

HurricaneWillis · Pair Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 47

Damn now you guys got me second guessing here. I sat down to play Stud online for the first time yesterday and I was CRUSHING the micro limits. I mean winning almost every hand. I'd just keep betting and raising and they'd keep calling then folding. I started playing my up cards more than the actual hand. As soon as my up cards started looking potentially scary to people(pairing up or starting to flush) I would start betting away. I got called down twice all night, both were times I actually DID have the hand I was representing.

Probelm is when I say micro limits, I mean *MICRO* limits. This is my biggest problem with Paradise Poker, I love the tournaments, being able to play in their Freeroll Million qualifier almost every day is nice, and the number of donks and bad beats seems MUCH lower than Full Tilt(and that's no knock on FTP, just the majority of people who play at FTP). However their ring games SUCK massively if you want to play anything besides Limit Hold 'Em. I was winning probably 90% of the hands at that table, only folded after the first round of betting once, and only lost one showdown in 2 hours. Result? 3 bucks.

Thinking maybe I've found my game I'm itching to move up to where I can make more than pocket change. Of course, the limits jumping from $0.02/$0.04 up to $0.50/$1.00 makes that dangerous for me. If I'm wrong and it was just a lucky streak or a table literally FULL of clueless players, I stand to lose a nice size chunk of my bankroll. I guess I stick to microlimit hold 'em for now. I'd like to play Stud but I'm either making so little money it's not even worth the time or I'm wagering WAY too much of my bankroll on a single game.

Folks, stay away from Paradise Poker unless you play nothing but tournaments. I can't wait to get my First Deposit bonus so I can yank my money off there and put it on a site who's cash games don't jump from 4 cents to a dollar.

KGBlovesOreos · Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:39 am Post subject:

HurricaneWillis · Pair Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 47

Thanks for the advice KGB. I've heard of doing this in the past and should probably start doing it. "I sat down to play Stud for 2 hours and won 75 big blinds!!" does sound a whole lot better than "I sat down to play Stud for 2 hours and won 3 bucks!!!" Razz

As an aside I did go against my better judgement and sat down at the $0.50/$1.00 Stud tables last night. When I sat down I made 2 rules for myself - first I would play VERY tight only bluffing when I was at least 90% sure I would take it down. Second, if at any time I lost $4 or more(the amount I'd usually take to the Micro Hold 'Em tables) I would leave then and there and not come back until my bankroll could handle the swings.

I finished the game up about $13.50 or about 13 1/2 big bets.

Still it was risky and I did it mainly as a treat for myself. I'll do that on some rare occassions, such as maybe playing in a tournament that is a tiny bit above the buy-ins I should be playing but only once per month. When I treat myself - win, lose, or draw - I don't do it again for a month at least.

For now I will stick to your advice, playing the micros and counting my wins in terms of BBs won rather than dollars.

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