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Badlydrawnboy · Flush Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 127

Way too early to do that, I think. I would just limp and if somebody makes a small raise pre-flop, call.

nilgiri · Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I was just kidding... Wink

I mostly wondered if people think I should limp or raise here (or fold?).

dcdoorknob · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject:

Been meaning to get back to this.

If I think the table will likely let me limp, I'll limp. Quite a few hands have been multiple limped preflop so far, so I probably would go that route. Don't think raising is horrible either though.

zamkin · Pair Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 31 Location: Erie, PA

I fold 33 here. If I limp and pot is raised I fold, if I raise and someone comes over the top I fold.

I just fold and pick better spots regardless of the cards.

nilgiri · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject:

Well, I limped. I had this impression (correct or not) that limping was being allowed at this table, so I decided to take the chance. Sometimes I fold this. Sometimes I raise. This time I limp...

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HAND #24
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 25/50 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Wood16 (UTG+1): 1,009
Hero (MP1): 2,042
landocaly (MP2): 1,550
XBELLO (CO): 1,861
fladimiir (BTN): 2,223
Tyler AAAA (SB): 1,310
Mcclaud222 (BB): 970
Chouby75 (UTG): 2,535

Pre-Flop: (75) 3

3

dealt to Hero (MP1)
2 folds, Hero calls 50, landocaly folds, XBELLO calls 50, fladimiir calls 50, Tyler AAAA folds, Mcclaud222 checks

Flop: (225) A

Q

T

(4 Players)
Mcclaud222 checks, Hero ???

What do I do now? There are four limpers in the hand? Should I just check here, should I try to bluff an EP limped ace (or KJ)?

zamkin · Pair Joined: 21 Jan 2007 Posts: 31 Location: Erie, PA

Now I would check and fold. The best I can hope for is to see free cards and hit a set. Even then unless board pairs I am weary if my set is even good, espec if that flush hits.

I dont like the position or the hand, and would feel uncomfortable playing in this spot. But then again I am not raking in the cash at poker either :p

I am hoping I can learn something from this one, as I would obviously play it much different.

dcdoorknob · Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:50 am Post subject:

Bluffing into 3 people out of position (on a flop that someone almost surely hit) doesn't seem like a great idea to me.

Badlydrawnboy · Flush Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 127

I agree with everybody. Checking here and folding to any bet is the best option here. It's hard to see how this flop cannot have helped one of the other limpers. You're lloking at possible weak Aces, straight draws, flush draws,... way too dangerous.

nilgiri · Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject:

Yeah, I think bluffing into that many people was pretty dumb, too... Smile

But I managed to get lucky.

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HAND #24
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Full Tilt Poker, $24 + $2 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 25/50 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Wood16 (UTG+1): 1,009
Hero (MP1): 2,042
landocaly (MP2): 1,550
XBELLO (CO): 1,861
fladimiir (BTN): 2,223
Tyler AAAA (SB): 1,310
Mcclaud222 (BB): 970
Chouby75 (UTG): 2,535

Pre-Flop: (75) 3

3

dealt to Hero (MP1)
2 folds, Hero calls 50, landocaly folds, XBELLO calls 50, fladimiir calls 50, Tyler AAAA folds, Mcclaud222 checks

Flop: (225) A

Q

T

(4 Players)
Mcclaud222 checks, Hero bets 100, XBELLO calls 100, fladimiir folds, Mcclaud222 calls 100

Turn: (525) 3

(3 Players)
Mcclaud222 checks, Hero ???

The donk move gets rewarded! Now I have a set! Should I be worried about KJ? Should I worry if the guy is on a flush draw? How do I best continue this?

dcdoorknob · Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject:

Ok, flop bet aside.... (yuck)

On the turn, I'm much more worried about draws than a KJ here, as KJ should be worried about draws too but no one seems to be worried. I'd make a healthy bet of at least 400

Badlydrawnboy · Flush Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 127

This is a difficult spot, I think, because if you bet sth like 400 like dcdoorknob suggests, there is a big possibility that people won't believe you and not respect your bet. The 3 seems like a complete blank to them.

This could turn out great if you get multiple calls and a completely safe card hits on the river or you make a full house.
But it could turn out very bad as well if any card like a K, J, perhaps even a 9 , or a flush card hits.

I would probably bet here as well, but be very cautious on the river.

nilgiri · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:59 am Post subject:

goomlah · Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject:

crazy image aside, see the flop with that hand.

Badlydrawnboy · Flush Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 127

dcdoorknob · Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:28 am Post subject:

The AT is a weird spot, but I do tend to dislike calling less than the other options by a little (follow that? lol) Folding seems too nitty and reraising can get us in a lot of trouble, especially given the image we should have and the raiser is fairly deep too. (For what its worth, if we had a solid TAG image to this point instead, I like reraising alot more here.)

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