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Teteban · Pair Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 23

No reads on button villain, just sat down shortstacking and blinds passed. Here goes, first try with a converter Smile

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Converter Tool from (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($2)
Hero ($1.85)
MP3 ($4.40)
CO ($4.60)
Button ($16.95)
SB ($3.55)
BB ($5)
UTG ($5.25)
UTG+1 ($10)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J

, 9

.
3 folds, Hero calls $0.10, 2 folds, Button calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.35) 4

, 8

, T

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.2, Button calls $0.20, BB folds.

Turn: ($0.75) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.2, Button calls $0.20.

River: ($1.15) T

(2 players)
Hero ... ?

About the flop bet, I usually slap my hand for betting strong draws like that; I still have no definite answer on whether it is fine or not. But anyway, his call made me think he had paired the board or maybe an overpair.
The turn bet, I think in retrospect, may have been a little feeble
But the river puzzles me...I think I have to bet here, but how much? Should I fear a boat or flush? (The board suited on the turn and I don't think villain would be chasing from the flop)

What do you think?

Jackten11 · Flush Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 135

You obviously have to bet. With him so much higher in money You are either going to double up or he has a monstor and its going to happen. The bet I would make here is 50c . It makes you seem like you dont want to go all in and want a little left in case he raises. I would guess he would at least call, but he probably puts you all in re raising. Then you should be good.

HuJwang · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject:

Fold preflop. When you are sitting with only 18 BB, you don't have room to be messing around with speculative hands like J9s, especially when there's no limpers in front and you aren't likely to have a multiway pot.

As played, the flop bet is alright (i might make it 25c or 30c to represent a strong hand), but you have to bet the turn much bigger. You have the nuts, and you should be aiming to get all your money in the pot. A bet of only 20c makes the pot about 1.15 on the river, and you still have 1.35 in your stack you'd like to get in. I would bet around 50c or 60c on the turn and then fire the rest in on the river.

On the river, I wouldn't be scared of a boat or flush at all. These hands aren't very likely. I would bet around 90c or so and expect to get paid off by a T, or perhaps a hand like QJ that was calling the flop with a gutshot and paired up on the turn. He may even call with just an 8.

Totes2Techs · Full House Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 188

unfortunately for you, you have 2 problems here. The 1st is that you just sat down and have no idea how this villain plays and he has a commanding stack over the entire table. The 2nd is that your beting set you up to be in this poor predicament. You gained zero info with that .20 bet and now you have no idea where you stand or what he might be playing. This is a classic case of a larger bet now could save you bets in the future.

The first question that I have is what does the button usually limp with at these levels and the answer is most often suited/non-suited connectors/gappers and small to low/mid PP's so there's a chance that he hit the set OTF. Of course with great position and a relatively huge stack, the button could be limping with a very large range of hands. He should have been raising PF w/ almost ATC, so since he didn't, I feel my original read fits. I'd would normally rule out a flush draw due to the flop, but since his stack is big, yours is so small and you are pricing him in, who knows. This is another reason short stacking is less than desirable IMO.

I think I would have made your flop bet a little bigger, maybe pot sized and build the pot to see where you stand since you're out of position and in case you hit your open ender, or just checked to see a free card on that dry flop against a big stack. I like the lead out bet since everyone limped PF. Had you bet more on the flop or the turn and put him to the test, his answer may have told you what you needed to know. Now you're stuck! Shove the rest in the middle and hope for the best. Your straight is good or you just lost to a boat and there was nothing you can do now thanks to your passive betting......not to mention the value you were giving up along the way. Then again, you sat down with $2.00 apparently, so you're getting all you have in the middle, which is what you wanted right?

PokerJessO · Straight Flush Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Posts: 371

Wow, I can't believe I beat mistaken69 to the obvious response: reload preflop.

Pre-flop call is OK.
Flop bet is OK.
Turn bet is very bad. You need to bet at the very least 1/2 pot to deny drawing odds, and I'd lean more toward 3/4 - pot.
River I'd say bet 1/2 pot and call a raise since you have no choice.

HuJwang · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 1:35 am Post subject:

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