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lenebean824
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 Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:07 am Post subject: How bad is Full Tilt Really? |
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| Anyone here used to play on Pokerroom.com before they shut down to USA Players, So how bad are the suck outs on here as opposed to the other online poker rooms? Any Answers? Opinions? |
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dcdoorknob
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Location: Mississippi
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| The suckouts on Full Tilt are worse than any other site, except for when they aren't as bad as the rest. Overall, its definitely better and worse than any other site. I don't see how anyone could argue with that. |
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lenebean824
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| SO if i am drawing stay in and I will make my hand more times than not and screw over someone playing correct? |
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dcdoorknob
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Location: Mississippi
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| Absolutely you will, unless you don't. |
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ynkpnt
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| lenebean824 wrote: |
| SO if i am drawing stay in and I will make my hand more times than not and screw over someone playing correct? |
i think you missed the point. only draw if you're going to hit but dont draw if you're not going to hit. you're going to miss if you dont hit but if you hit you wont miss. and you'll win the pot when you dont lose it. hence fulltilt is only bad when its not good |
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atlbraves00
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| dcdoorknob wrote: |
| Absolutely you will, unless you don't. |
LOL |
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pikeman327
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Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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Location: California
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:37 am Post subject: Re: How bad is Full Tilt Really? |
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| lenebean824 wrote: |
| Anyone here used to play on Pokerroom.com before they shut down to USA Players, So how bad are the suck outs on here as opposed to the other online poker rooms? Any Answers? Opinions? |
The percentage of "suckouts" on Full Tilt are, in total, nearly identical to any other major poker site. Any major difference you see is just in your head. All sites use RNGs (random number generators) that operate in much the same way, so if there actually is a difference between the randomness of cards being dealt from site to site, it's so infinitely small that it doesn't even matter.
And yes, I used to play on Pokerroom all the time. I still like their software better (the live pot odds feature is great), but Full Tilt is the next best thing in my opinion. |
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sixandfour
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:42 am Post subject: |
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sixandfour
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Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:50 am Post subject: Re: How bad is Full Tilt Really? |
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| lenebean824 wrote: |
| Anyone here used to play on Pokerroom.com before they shut down to USA Players, So how bad are the suck outs on here as opposed to the other online poker rooms? Any Answers? Opinions? |
The percentage of "suckouts" on Full Tilt are, in total, nearly identical to any other major poker site. Any major difference you see is just in your head. All sites use RNGs (random number generators) that operate in much the same way, so if there actually is a difference between the randomness of cards being dealt from site to site, it's so infinitely small that it doesn't even matter.
And yes, I used to play on Pokerroom all the time. I still like their software better (the live pot odds feature is great), but Full Tilt is the next best thing in my opinion. |
Who let this whack job in?
Listen to DC, lenebean. He's absolutely right on. The odds of outdrawing someone on FTP are inversely proportional to 100%/the odds of winning. If you want to get technical. |
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donkeykong1978
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horrible i played a pokerstars for a long time and the suck outs here are 3x worse than pokerstars,.the full tilt customer service 24/7 that means 24 days and 7 months becauseed its none exsitent unless you need to deposit then just call some lady who dosent speak english.
full tilt
full scam full of s h i t |
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sixandfour
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horrible i played a pokerstars for a long time and the suck outs here are 3x worse than pokerstars,.the full tilt customer service 24/7 that means 24 days and 7 months becauseed its none exsitent unless you need to deposit then just call some lady who dosent speak english.
full tilt
full scam full of s h i t |
Wow. How can you disagree with a so cleverly worded argument? All we've got are thousands of hands of boring statistics...  |
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craigo6x
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| So let me get this straight. If I'm drawing to a suckout, but I don't hit, I should fold before drawing so I don't lose what I was not going to win? I thought that if i was going to hit my card I had a good chance of winning so I should play that draw on the chance that if the draw hits I will win the hand instead of folding whereby I lose the hand since I didn't draw. |
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sixandfour
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| So let me get this straight. If I'm drawing to a suckout, but I don't hit, I should fold before drawing so I don't lose what I was not going to win? I thought that if i was going to hit my card I had a good chance of winning so I should play that draw on the chance that if the draw hits I will win the hand instead of folding whereby I lose the hand since I didn't draw. |
That's why you only draw to a suckout when you hit and fold otherwise. C'mon, its not that hard a concept. Obviously there's no point to drawing unless you hit.
The easiest way though is to write in your opponent's name on the indicator dial for your doomswitch. Then you don't even have to think about it. |
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DrAndrian
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shevykittle
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| its horrible. |
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