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dcdoorknob
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: QQ, 2 raise callers +BB reraise Reply with quote

Hadn't really noticed BB do anything significant to take note of so far, so no real reads other than the 2 callers are loose and unlikely to have a big hand.

Full Tilt Poker, $11 + $1 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 30/60 Blinds, 8 Players
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BB: 1,425
UTG: 1,545
UTG+1: 2,385
Hero (MP1): 2,135
MP2: 1,705
CO: 1,730
BTN: 1,340
SB: 1,235

Pre-Flop: (90) Q Q dealt to Hero (MP1)
2 folds, Hero raises to 180, MP2 calls 180, 2 folds, SB calls 150, BB raises to 650, hero ???
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Peepers_au
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Location: Melbourne, Australia

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd fold it reluctantly, mutter under my breath a little and pick a better spot.

He's pretty much committed even if only you call, it's early on and you have a nice stack in front of you.
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mvee99
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Joined: 16 May 2008
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you're more experienced than me, but for here from my point of view, that guy raising probably has at least AK, if not KK or AA... Early on in the tournament, its just not worth getting into that kind of at best coin flip situation and risk getting knocked out of severely short stacked, especially with the other guys still to act behind you.

On the other hand I notice in these $10 SNGs a lot of players like to go nuts with mid pairs like 88, 99 or TT so if you did push him all in, then unless MP2/SB has AA/KK they'd fold... and you're a 80% favourite.

Besides I always like to see other people go nuts early on since you get to see how they behave with certain hands and at least one person is probably getting knocked out here which is always good for your cause.

My train of thought.
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cardfish2
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you have to fold. The less than all in re-raise with that many people in the pot is AA or KK too high a percentage of the time to make it worth playing.
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dcdoorknob
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mvee99 wrote:
I'm sure you're more experienced than me, but for here from my point of view, that guy raising probably has at least AK...


For what its worth, I'm not sure I can lay this down IF AK is in the villains range given my read on the 2 loose callers and the likely dead money in the pot from them. Why doesn't AK raise all in though? I don't know.
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nilgiri
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen hands like KQ and 88 do this too often to let this go. I'd shove. Don't know if I'm right or not, though...
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