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jeffr8 · Royal Flush Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Posts: 999

keyboard condoms FTW

Flying_Kiwi · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject:

rigged

craigo6x · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject:

Ribbed for your keyboards pleasure

markljackson · Straight Flush Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 360

I have to disagree, it's not the "high" stack (did you mean big stack?) players; it's the idiots who don't know they are drawing thin. That of course pretty much encompasses most of the people on draws here.

fire_eyes_2k · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:04 am Post subject:

YDWard · Two Pair Joined: 21 Dec 2007 Posts: 71

I have extensive stats, and the dealing does not favor bigger stacks in showdowns, either when they are ahead allin, behind allin, or at any point in the deal. This is based on over 100,000 allin situations- in hand to hand comparisons, the big stack won 47.3% of the time, and the small stack won 47.6% of the time with the rest splits. The net difference has been bound between -0.4% and 0.3% for over the last half of the count.

The dealing does not model that of a completely randomized model, that is for certain, but there is no bias based on stack sizes.

Flying_Kiwi · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject:

rigged

keegs22 · Straight Flush Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 372

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG+1: 5,602
UTG+2: 9,580
MP1: 13,765
Hero (MP2): 20,075
CO: 12,020
BTN: 14,276
SB: 3,280
BB: 15,510
UTG: 25,520

Pre-Flop: (300) 7

7

dealt to Hero (MP2)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls 200, MP1 folds, Hero raises to 500, 4 folds, UTG+2 calls 300

Flop: (1,300) Q

7

9

(2 Players)
UTG+2 bets 500, Hero raises to 1,200, UTG+2 calls 700

Turn: (3,700) 9

(2 Players)
UTG+2 bets 200, Hero raises to 1,600, UTG+2 raises to 7,880 and is All-In, Hero calls 6,280

River: (19,460) 3

(2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 19,460 Pot
UTG+2 showed 8

J

(a flush, Queen high) and LOST (-9,580 NET)
Hero showed 7

7

(a full house, Sevens full of Nines) and WON 19,460 (+9,880 NET)

Edit: As you can see since my stack was larger so I had the .3% advantage as mentioned by the post 2 above Wink

rigged

YDWard · Two Pair Joined: 21 Dec 2007 Posts: 71

Since I am at it tonight, I thought I would post some other interesting stats about this site's dealing program.

With a random deal, the cards of your pocket should be evenly distributed, at 7.69% (100/13) of the time for each card. I have been keeping count of mine for the last 73,459 hands and here is what I have found:

A card in my pocket is an ace 11.4% of the time, king 10.3% of the time, queen 9.9% of the time, jack 9.0% of the time, ten 8.1% of the time, and the rest of the cards are all 6.4% plus or minus 0.2%.

The above also explains the following, unsurprising fact- of all the pockets of unpaired cards, the hand least likely to pair a full, five card board is, you guessed it, ace king, and the order is exactly what you would expect based on the previous stats- the next least likely to pair the board is ace queen and king queen which are about equal. Any unpaired hand that contains cards under ten are all approximately equal in their ability to pair the board at least once, and are a little less than twice as likely to pair the board as ace king.

Incidentally, this is also the underlying reason for the unusually high number of big ace showdowns, and also the underlying reason for the unreasonable number of aces vs kings vs queens vs jacks showdowns you see on this site- all are a function of the fact that the higher the card, the more likely it is to be dealt to the pockets.

Flying_Kiwi · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject:

daddio259 · High Card Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 9

These threads crack me up, first off 99% of the people who complain about cheating probably never play for real money,they also are the worst kind of poker player in mey opinion,they got hooked watching

World Series of Poker-the worst thing to happen to poker EVER PERIOD.They never see the hours spent grinding hand after hand,they also never play anything but face cards or have enough "PLAY" chips to ever play loose enough to go after a lowball straight or flush.So when they are sitting on an pair of aces and someone had the balls to go for a 6-7-8-9-10 straight WELL OBVIOUSLY THE SOFTWARE IS RIGGED Shocked

Flying_Kiwi · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject:

rigged

live4freerolls · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject:

The proof is so obvious open your minds people.

wwcd5215 · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 10:19 pm Post subject:

rigg-o

jjuggalo4 · Banned Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Posts: 118 Location: Florida

riggey

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