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telebob
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject: 10NL 6max Overpair to paired flop Reply with quote

Am I committed here? Is my flop raise too big?

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Hero (BTN): $7.40
SB: $25.15
BB: $10
UTG: $5.40
MP: $2
CO: $5

MP posts $0.10
Pre-Flop: T T dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, MP checks, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, 2 folds, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.95) 2 2 5 (3 Players)
MP bets $0.10, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $2, MP calls $1.30 and is All-In, CO raises to $3.90, Hero ....
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Riddim
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks standard as long as you got the rest in. I mean the flop action is annoying because you're probably behind pretty often, but I don't think it's often enough to fold.
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drtre1987
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riddim wrote:
I mean the flop action is annoying because you're probably behind pretty often, but I don't think it's often enough to fold.


What? Especially at 10NL, I don't think he is behind very often at all. Only 22, 2x, 55, and overpairs beat him. Overpairs better than TT are pretty unlikely, although still a possibility. I see people pushing in this spot with a lot of junk hands at 10NL here and he is miles ahead of their range, especially given the pot odds. This is a fist pump call imo.
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telebob
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drtre1987 wrote:
Riddim wrote:
I mean the flop action is annoying because you're probably behind pretty often, but I don't think it's often enough to fold.


What? Especially at 10NL, I don't think he is behind very often at all. Only 22, 2x, 55, and overpairs beat him. Overpairs better than TT are pretty unlikely, although still a possibility. I see people pushing in this spot with a lot of junk hands at 10NL here and he is miles ahead of their range, especially given the pot odds. This is a fist pump call imo.


Really? This doesn't reflect my experience at this level. I think I'm behind way more often than I'm ahead. I made the pot odds call (actually RRAI to get his last .50 into the pot), but definitely didn't add the fist pump.
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drtre1987
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my experience, I see people push there with 66+, overcards, A5, and sometimes other junk in this type of spot. Its been a while since I've played 10NL, but this how I remember it. I wouldn't really that much credit to it being a crai seeing how its practically a min bet. I think this is overpair that under your TT or overcards often enough to make this a call.
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PokerJessO
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's over $9 in the pot. You already invested $2.60. It'll only cost you $1.90 to call, and another $.50 to put your opponent all in. Any play other than pushing is really bad for those pot odds.
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telebob
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your comments, the move to 6-max has been tough on my bankroll, winning lots of small pots, and losing big ones. I'd like to get a handle on it before my b/r takes too big a hit.
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AceMan10
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6-handed has way to many swings....
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drtre1987
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AceMan10 wrote:
6-handed has way to many swings....


Its true that your swings are a little smaller at 9 player tables, but it should increase your BB/hr to play 6 max. For me, my BB/hr greatly increased over my switch from 9 player to 6 max, that I made about 2 months ago. So over the long run, you should have more money, even though the swings seem more significant.
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