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californiachamp · Banned Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 394

After doing several epassporte transactions myself successful without hassle, i realize more and more, that even though all sites no longer process epassporte, nothing really has changed....

Epassporte still successfully handles business, atm card, bank transfers, etc.....Only thing that changed was the direct transfer to poker sites and because it appears there is only a few people who have epassporte funds that YOU CAN TRUST, thank goodness i was lucky to find a few of them...

But i have an idea that could truly solve this entire dilemma for everybody and it will as well make certain people good profit.

We need to set up a network of individuals that are willing to keep their epassporte account well funded.........

To load 100 dollars, it costs 5 bucks, so basically 5% rate per 100 bucks is the cost to load up.

Now if we could get a few people that would be consistent with this and have their epassporte account loaded at all times with a decent amount of money, they could become the epassporte network just like the trading sites you hear about online that handle trading business except these people would be specific to epassporte.

I would suggest and recommend they charge a flat rate of 10% commission for whatever they trade with you.....I would have no problem myself until something new emerges , some new processor down the road, whenever that might occur.......But to pay 10% rate for example on 300 bucks to pay 30 bucks to get 270 in my pocket without hassles and immediate is worth the cost....

I so far with the transactions i have done have thrown in bonus money as is just to say thanks and to entice somebody to do business with me, but if actually set this up and had a few people truly deem themselves as epassporte trading partners to rely on and would take 10% and they were available AT ALL TIMES, this will solve the problem.

and to pay 10% commission, whoever does the trading will in essence net 5% profit per 100 dollars after their 5% cost with loading up with epassporte thus it is a win-win scenario.

This will as well eliminate the worry of "who is the scammers" who isn't, etc.......

So for those who are interested in being epassporte funders and can handle this obligation and responsibility, feel free to start listing your names and if so, make sure your ready to do business and have your epassporte account funded!

anybody else wish to chime in, give advice or suggestions i didnt think of, feel free to share so we can discuss to possibly make this idea even better than i thought of...

If done correct, this could be a start of something great for the epassporte funders as it could end up being quite lucrative for them.

pmarrsouth · Royal Flush Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 646

This is being done already.

Abominable

californiachamp · Banned Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 394

agree, but he is the ONLY one that I know of that does it and he is rarely around.....If we had 5 or 6 of him and one of the 5 or 6 were always available 24/7, then it works.

sheesh i propose a great idea and as usual, somebody lol has to damper the mood of a great idea......

fine i am simply trying to solve the problems here, seeing as how nobody else is stepping up to solve the crisis, including the site itself, how about you?

I dont see you proposing any idea's to facilitate this whole cashing out problem any better....

kennyskywalker · Four of a Kind Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 320

I had the same exact idea yesterday and thought somebody could make a pretty good buck selling Epassporte guys like you and me. The demand is out there. Now come on one of you entrepeneneur's the time to move is now, it's free money.

rockycatt · Message Board Junkie Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 2399

i agree and i was thinking all around that yester day . how ever i think

that the commisions should be looked at to be fair as possable
that way the success will grow and make every one happy

i love it [ it side steps g w bush the azz]

njpokerhoney · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:26 am Post subject:

rockycatt · Message Board Junkie Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 2399

californiachamp · Banned Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 394

njhoney, I like you and so i will keep this civil and friendly.

But your advice at times could cost good business for others..You see when a new person shows up and somebody like yourself who is considered "a veteran" based on your post count and when you joined the forum, a new person is likely to truly listen to you, more than somebody else which can be good or sometimes not good.

For example, you private messaged me and advised me to stay away from somebody " I won't name who they are", but guess what, that person ended up being very trusting, reliable, and actually a very nice guy...and i messaged you back to further explain to me why you told me to avoid this person and you simply ignored my message and didnt explain yourself why you were giving me such advice...it could have cost me a good trade....

and NOW i think of a great idea that could revolutionize this whole epassporte dilemma and you say the ONLY person you would advise us to do epassporte business is adominable or however you spell his name.......AGAIN, your giving advice without merit njhoney....

I have done several epassporte transactions and everybody i did business with was fast with me, they sent first without issue and were very professional and followed the rules exactly how to do the trade.

And to say that abominable which yes he has a good trading history and he is somebody definately to rely on, awesome...but to come to the forum and say he is the ONLY one you would say is trusting is absurd.

If your going to truly say to avoid somebody like you did in my case with your message, then please explain why so yes we can ALL AVOID these potential scammers but you just implied from this post, that abominable is the ONLY person worth trusting on epassporte?

And from that implication, what if he is not around? should we just sit for days and wait til he signs on? think about it.

this is why i proposed the idea of this network, to establish a network of trusting epassporte funders that are available as often as possible.

I want to remain friendly with everybody, hard to do sometimes, but i am here to handle business, make my money on the tables and cash out easily and i rarely used the forum til 2 weeks ago , had no reason to, but now i want to help this forum out with my wisdom and knowledge of processors including starting to establish myself some good trading partners.

And when your giving me advice as well to avoid somebody that ultimately would have cost me my trade yesterday and then you dont even explain why, when i ask, i start to ask myself, what is your true motive in all this?

Yes there are scammers, agree'd......But this is a business section and if your going to start throwing around comments like "avoid this person" then be prepared to say why because your ultimately going to cost this person business and if they are truly a good honest poker player with good intention, you actually did more harm than good.

njpokerhoney · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:55 am Post subject:

CC- are you kidding

1st: idc is you like me or not-
If my advice costs ppl business: idc
i am not consider a veteran trader b/c of my post count, and if ppl think that is why I am trusted- they are foolish: post count is irrelavant: 100% successful trading history w/out complications, allegations or any negative feedback would seem to be more important- at least to me

I did PM you- you choose not only to ignore my advice- but also to call me out here? classy

As for your "good trade"- should there be any problems, which can pop up after a trade is "successful" that's on you and again- your problem.

As for your "idea" who has anywhere as good a trading track record as abominable- that also has epassporte funds available? Abominable.

As for my "implication", if abominable is not around for day, like always : trade at your own risk.

As for my motive- are you serious CC? who the fuc do you think you are?

unlike your suggestion- this is not a business nor a "business section"- to imply otherwise is wrong. Sure, some people have the opportunity o make a few dollars on trading a desired commodity- but would it not make sense to trade with someone safe, honest and proven?

I cannot imagine a single person, apparently other than you, who can claim that I have done more harm than good here.

gg CC

californiachamp · Banned Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 394

Excuse me? Swearing now? Who am i? Nobody relevant to you, why is it everybody gets so freakin hostile and defensive SO EASY on this forum.

I have helped out alot of people, give good advice and came here pretty much for the purpose of handling my epassporte business and don't need to explain myself to you BUT WHEN YOU SEND ME A PM advising me to avoid a person, then yes you became my business, did you not?

And obviously you chose to ignore my PM even though you send me a PM huh....I was not going to even discuss it further until you obviously felt the need to once again say who is trusthworthy and who isn't..

A better question should be , who do you think you are? (without feeling the need to curse)

Your obviously thinking your opinion and judgement of everybody is almighty, so fine....if you can help somebody avoid a scammer, then super, i respect that and so yes your advice almost cost me from doing my trade yesterday and now instead of apologizing, you wish to now say oh a trade isnt final even though it is final, wtf?

why you getting so defensive seriously? Your talking about ruining people's names in a trading forum so yes this is business and considering the MAJORITY of people here are sincere with coming in this section, you ought to be extra careful when you label somebody a risk to trade with, as you might be yes hurting their ability to cashout using epassporte or fund the site......thus why i just said what i did.

and you get all hostile and defensive???? no need for that...especially cursing?

Ya know something, I am one of the few good guys here, a person people can truly trust, listen to and even learn from how to win at poker and now your talking smack? like so many others do on forums?

And why? because i asked you one simple question about possibly defaming people? and saying everybody is not worth trading except abominable? yes that was a grand statement....and so i questionned it and you get all hostile?

I wont explain myself any further as i dont need to but i can tell based on your hostile demeanor towards a very simple question i posed , that there is more to this story what your motive is when trying to deter business from others...

good day NJHONEY Smile

pmarrsouth · Royal Flush Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 646

@ calichump,

just to let you know that you didnt come up with anything.

I have been trading for a couple of years. Abominable has been trading for 6-8 months.

When Neteller left the US, I continued to trade.

Epasss has gone, and I have continued to trade, when I have Epass.

Abominable has continued to trade EPass since the day it left. Yes epass funds are not unlimited, but he does a lot of trades with it.

You say he is not here 24 hours a day. That is true, but he spends 6-8 hours a day on here, usually more. He does the trades when he gets here. Too bad people are not wanting to wait an hour or 2 (maybe even 4) to trade, and they send to scammers, and in some cases to the wrong name, and in very limited cases, both happen.

So you didnt come up with anything new. I agree that more people could trade. But some people dont want to get involved, as it is a risk. Even if you dont send first, you can get burnt.

californiachamp · Banned Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 394

calichump??????? Your all a bunch of freakin 3rd graders, seriously....

Swearing, name calling, acting like kids when questionned about defaming somebody's character.

You really think i care one ounce how long you been trading or who has or whether my idea was good or not???????? seriously??? you think i care?

If an idea can help, i proposed it, if it can't, then oh well.....

I have needed to trade, you say you been trading for years? WHY dude? Seriously? Up until 2 weeks ago, i have never needed to trade one penny, why? because i win and only need to cash out and in the rare situations where i had to deposit, i used epassporte or neteller and simply funded my account...why would you need to do trades for years? whatever...

wow everyday same story with this forum...People just LOVE to argue, talk smack, make themselves appear better than others, something about poker players when all this started from me posting a simple post with an idea I THOUGHT could improve this section and what do i get?

A couple of people who thrive on talking smack to strangers instead of sitting on a poker table and earning money, hey whatever floats your boat.

And smartmouth, i mean psmarouth or whater your name is, you were arguing with a person yesterday, what gives dude? Now your calling me names as well? your all out of control here.........

bragging that you do trades for years and how to avoid a scam, wow, like it is some major accomplishment in life, hey i avoided a poker trading scam. woohoo..

i dont need to trade for freakin YEARS to know how to avoid a scam online, but some of the newbies cant thus i can help give them advice..........

whatever, i am done arguing with you both, i come to expect this from poker players, ready to argue and get hostile because they cant beat you on a poker table, so they try and beat you in an argument off the table, seen it for many years now.

GG sir

rockycatt · Message Board Junkie Joined: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 2399

californiachamp · Banned Joined: 05 Jul 2006 Posts: 394

rocky, APPARENTLY and i have no idea how this would happen (because i guess i dont think scammish) but if your doing business with a person who has fraudulent funds or an account deemed fraudulent and your associated with that person, maybe in a trade, then the site will put 2 and 2 together and say hey this person is fraudulent as well, lets freeze his account or funds and investigate.....that is what i would think could happen.

You wont get scammed beint sent first but that is the logic which again i have no idea how somebody could for example load an epassporte account using fraudulent means, call me naive, but when you set up an account with epassporte, they are pretty damn good at verifying your account and you so to get approved, that account should be 100% legit and if you load it up, then not sure it is possible to deal with fraud...

So that is why i say when a deal is complete, it is complete, see rocky, if i am wrong, heck I ASK, i dont get hostile like they do on here so easy....

If somebody is accused me of being bad business to trade with, i ask why, i dont just say OK and because i asked njhoney why she told me to avoid this one person, she ignored it and now she is getting hostile towards me for no reason.......

but whatever.......

pmarrsouth · Royal Flush Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 646

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