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DrewGodofPoker
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Learning limit games Reply with quote

What are the best guides for limit hold'em. Up till now I have not played anything other than NL but I want to get into limit.
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fire_eyes_2k
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are a beginner or intermediate, I'd say go for Winning Low-Limit Hold'Em by Lee Jones. It's the perfect beginners guide and will fix the leaks in the games of slightly better players. If anyone says to go out and buy Small Stakes Hold'Em, don't listen as the strategies aren't any use in games of stakes above 10c/20c any more.

Getting on to more advanced literature, Winning In Tough Hold'Em Games by Stoxtrader & Zobags (can't remember their real names) is good, but its very math orientated, so if you don't like the math then you wont like it. But if you don't like math youre probably a bad LHE player.
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mathman1115
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Learning limit games Reply with quote

DrewGodofPoker wrote:
What are the best guides for limit hold'em. Up till now I have not played anything other than NL but I want to get into limit.


Limit is a card oriented game moreso than no limit. Bluffing is not a large part of limit, and the cards you start with, flop, and catch on the turn and river will have a large bearing on your short term results. The idea is to maximize your profits when the cards are there, and minimize your losses when they aren't, so as to show a profit over the long term. And remember, LIMIT IS LONG TERM.

Also, preflop play is very important. When playing a hand, realize that your implied odds aren't as large as in a NL game, so a majority of the time a playable hand should be one you raise or reraise with.

These are just some quick general tips. I (as well as others on this forum) could go on forever. Definetely take FE2Ks advice and read some books.
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DrewGodofPoker
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k thx guys
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Badlydrawnboy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, start out at the cash tables and avoid large low-buyin limit tournaments.

People bet like crazy there and you won't learn much about how the game should be played.

If you can win 3BB per hour, that's an acceptable winrate, so you need to be very patient when you play the low stakes.
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griffinlord
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good advice so far.

Picking up the theme of starting hands: At a 9/10 handed limit table you will play around 18% of your starting hands where at NL you would play about 28%. You play a lot fewer hands.

You will get sucked out on more often. Get used to it.

You will get drawn out on more often. If there is multiway action preflop anyone who hits a straight or flush draw on the flop is going to the river. You cannot push them off the hand because they are usually getting the odds they need to call. But, you can charge them for their draws.
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Riddim
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

griffinlord wrote:
Picking up the theme of starting hands: At a 9/10 handed limit table you will play around 18% of your starting hands where at NL you would play about 28%.


Wow, what are you basing this on?
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