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skippydaroo
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: RIGGED SITE Reply with quote

THIS SITE IS RIGGED OR YOU LOT DONT KNOW POKER
YOU SUCK LIKE SH
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st6truckie
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much did you lose?
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wwcd5215
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: RIGGED SITE Reply with quote

skippydaroo wrote:
THIS SITE IS RIGGED OR YOU LOT DONT KNOW POKER
YOU SUCK LIKE SH


yup
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MarkGreb
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sigh.

In before lock.
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IABoomer
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkGreb wrote:
Sigh.

In before lock.


Can't lock the "official" Rigged thread.
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dcdoorknob
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: RIGGED SITE Reply with quote

skippydaroo wrote:

YOU SUCK LIKE SH


Wait, what? Is SH known for sucking? Or is it someone who asks people to be quiet alot who is also known for sucking? Is the sh just the first 2 letters of a four letter word that might get censored? Even then, why would one say you suck like ****? If it stands for something else, what is it? I'm so confused.
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Nositi
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Joined: 22 May 2008
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Location: Vancouver, Canada eh

PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trekk wrote:
why on earth are you trying to tell me what my words mean? Is that not the stupidest thing you have ever heard? I wrote them the way they are, so you try to justify what you think it means in your own head.

And again, I have never 'implied' that FTP is a cheaters website, again that is just you assuming and putting words in my mouth. You tell me I need to learn what 'imply' means lol.. you cannot even take a conversation the right direction, you have to make bullsnap up and put words in my mouth to justify your point on how you think I am 'implying' that FTP cheats out on everyone.


It's not rocket science. You come into the official "FTP IS RIGGED" topic and say that you think it's fishy, and they should show proof that there is no cheating. You absolutely refuse to clarify your position any more than that, you simply claim that people are putting words into your mouth. If you have no opinion or don't care either way, why are you here? Trolling is a good guess. Otherwise you must be leaning towards thinking it's either rigged or not. Most people wouldn't ask for proof if they thought that it wasn't rigged.

trekk wrote:
And I could careless about going to google or wiki and trying to use that as a credible source, because as everyone with any mental capability should know: Anyone can write whatever they want and claim it is true. Just as you are doing with changing my words to make it sound as if I am accusing FTP of cheating. But you know, you can also find articles that agree with how I say negative proof can be brought out into the open.


For most of us, it's pretty easy to determine which sources are good and which are bad. For instance, if there are 10 agreeing sites that each state a clear definition of a term that's also very well known in philosophy + logic, and there's a single site that has a contrary definition among a bunch of conspiracy theory garbage, I know which one I go with. You may go with the conspiracy theory site, but most people would not.

trekk wrote:
Why would any sane person believe me to be accusing FTP of cheating just because I question why they have not proven to their customers they are not involved in cheating? Wouldn't a sane person just view this as an open debatable object? Instead you cannot even discuss this issue without trying to harass myself and try to make personal attacks about my reading comprehension hahahaaa. But from what you are saying, I must be insane for even thinking its a possibility.


Because of the nature of this thread. Because common sense dictates that proof is not necessary unless there's a good reason to doubt that there is anything going on. As others have said, peoples' suspicion is based on nothing more than their own memories and a few odd hand histories. We are bound to remember the hands that we believe we should have won but did not end in our favor. There are plenty of tools out there that you can feed your hand histories to and analyze. If there was a single analysis out there with a half decent sample size suggesting that there might be something fishy going on, I would agree that FTP needs to cough up some sort of proof. But there isn't. There's just a few fools who think that because they lost a hand they were favored to win, it's rigged.

I am not harassing you. I'm sorry that you're so sensitive that you think my reading comprehension comment was a personal attack. You put words into my mouth, and I thought that you might be able to read between the lines. If you read the part that followed, I actually explained why I questioned your reading comprehension. It was phrased in the form of a question for a reason.

trekk wrote:
Btw I have to mention your comment about trolling has to be the dumbest thing ive heard. You really know how to contradict yourself on this subject.


Your explanation about how you can't be trolling has to be the dumbest thing I've heard.
1. I say you're trolling (in other words, simply here to annoy people).
2. You say you aren't trolling because you play cash games and sit & gos while posting here.
3. I say you can troll without devoting your whole attention to the forum.
4. You say I contradicted myself.

???

If you're going to say that the way I phrased #3 suggests that I'm a troll, that was obviously not intentional. The point is that your playing while posting on here does not have anything to do with whether you are a troll or not. Even if I had meant what I think you interpret that as, it would mean that we are both trolls. That is not even remotely close to being a contradiction in any way.

And if that isn't what you mean, how is it a contradiction? All I can do is assume what you mean, because even though you're so apparently so clear, you didn't say how I contradicted myself.

trekk wrote:
How old are you? just turned 18? You know all in the world now? on a serious note, don't talk for me, I can represent what I say very clearly, you do not have to change my words to make them sound more appealing to a cheating claim. Maybe its you who needs to work on your reading comprehension, and stick with what you read.


This is a little hypocritical. You were just complaining that I was apparently harassing you and throwing personal insults at you, and now you're arbitrarily applying a stereotype to me. I've drawn logical conclusions about what you mean. That's all I've done. You've done nothing to dispute this aside from claiming that I'm putting words into your mouth. You won't say anything about what you actually think about the subject, you just present yourself as a fence sitter. You have in fact put words in my mouth with your comments about Wikipedia.

Go on, I find your responses amusing. I hope people post more obvious jokes so you can completely miss the point and then try to save face with your funny follow-up responses.
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GOLDA
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: this site cheats Reply with quote

I have reached the conclusion htat this ewbsite cheats people out of their money - statistically there are to many bad beats
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guitarguy178
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should try playing here. They clain that there games are rigged so the best player will win and you can't suck out. Enjoy!!

Edit, forgot the link. http://www.duplicatepoker.com/


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mathman1115
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: this site cheats Reply with quote

GOLDA wrote:
I have reached the conclusion htat this ewbsite cheats people out of their money - statistically there are to many bad beats



sigh..................

NEXT.
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the realjayz
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: donkeys Reply with quote

why is is that u guys reward bad play? guys calling raise before the flop with 73 and 45 garbage hands. hands they shouldnt be playing with and u guys reward them. ive been beat by more junk hands than actuall real hands i mean come on is this how u want people 2 play out in the real world know one i know plays like these idiots. it also teaches bad habits to the people that want 2 play right were always having 2 push 2 keep the idiots out of the hands. it a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Stardog75
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....or maybe someone just doesn't know how to manage a bankroll!!!
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ManilaDog
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Re: this site cheats Reply with quote

GOLDA wrote:
I have reached the conclusion htat this ewbsite cheats people out of their money - statistically there are to many bad beats


what are your statistics ?
and please define bad beat ?or is that whenever you lose ?
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orgazmo1
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Bad beats all fing day long Reply with quote

These websites are all the same. They let you get up with some reward for playing good, and then they throw bad beat after bad beat on you until your fing money is gone. It seems like every weak ass ace that is played comes up with a four flush or some retarded thing to bust a big pair. I also seem to get a lot of big pairs that are somehow always one bettered at a crucial moment. Now once in awhile that happens, but not at the percentages on your website or any other I have played on. In short you are all scammers and you prey on people who just want to play well. The good players are screwed with bad beats so you jerk offs can get more money.
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stenrick
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: donkeys Reply with quote

the realjayz wrote:
ive been beat by more junk hands than actuall real hands i mean come on is this how u want people 2 play out in the real world know one i know plays like these idiots. it also teaches bad habits to the people that want 2 play right were always having 2 push 2 keep the idiots out of the hands.


Actually, YES!!! This is exactly what I would want. Over the long run, they won't be the one's with the money in their pockets.
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