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Camby24
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 Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: Is this some sort of new play I've never heard of???? |
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| Just a little venting to relax here guys, you don't have to continue reading if you don't want!!!! Just in a US freeroll, I know the key word is FREE, but still I'm so competitive it doesnt matter!!! Ive played perfect poker, for me at least, I'm running about 30th out of 75 remaining out of a field of 2700!!! Been playing for just under 3 hours!!! I'm the BB and what do I get dealt to me, THE BULLETS, Oh yeah Camby 24 your gonna cash in!!!! So I'm thinking 4 maybe 5 times the bb raise when it gets to me, not sure if that the right move but I never just blindly go all in with anything unless im low stack trying to tread water!!! I'm getting a little excited bc its coming up to me and I have a couple contenders, and then all of a sudden the button moves all in with a chip stack equal to mine at 50k!!! OH THANK YOU POKER GODS!!! Obviously I call him every1 else folds and we flip!!! What does he have you ask me??? Well.....he has the always intimidating J 5 unsuited!!!! YOu know where Im going with this... Flop:JJ8 turn:2 river:Q Boom out of the tournament!!!! Now that my friends is what you call a BAD BEAT!!!! But thats not what gets me, it happens, and with the hundreds of thousands of deals going on at once it is gonna happen a lot!!! So I stick around the table, not to call the guy a blank or a blankity blank or a mother blanker!!! I just want to see what people say!!! Every1 starts calling him a donkey!!! But the kicker to the story is that he says that, that is what the pros do and that, that is the typical move from the button!!!! I am no where near the best player on the website but I would consider myself definately in the upper 50%, so my question is: Is this a typical move to risk your whole tournament regardless of what you have and go all in on the button, does it work all the time??? Please let me know!!! Thanks for reading if you got this far I feel a lot better now!!! And dont think that I'm saying anything is rigged bc ITS NOT!!! And you may be asking me: Camby24 who is this guy??? Well sorry I'm not going to tell you that it was VIPoker, bc I just dont do things like that!!!!! |
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telebob
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| Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:14 am Post subject: Re: Is this some sort of new play I've never heard of???? |
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| Is this a typical move to risk your whole tournament regardless of what you have and go all in on the button, does it work all the time??? |
...works every time but the last time. 
ummm, no. i'm pretty sure this ain't "the standard play," at any level. |
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Muskogee Mike
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| if either he were short stacked or both blinds were, he might try that with some success. but in the situation he described it is just foolish. the standard play would be for him to raise 3 to 5 times the BB and then fold to your reraise. |
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Nobody4727
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Definitely a very poor attempt to steal the pot, but he way overbet it. He left himself no way out of the hand if someone called his bluff. He just happened to catch.
It may be his standard move, but it sure isn't anyone's with a consistent winning record. Just another poor bluff by him to defend himself against the others, calling him "donkey". |
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ynkpnt
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| besides being a sick beat its worse when your that deep in a freeroll surviving the donkfest that goes on in those is a win in itself if it makes you feel better. ive seen better play on the playchiptables it would be nice if you did mention his name that way people know what to expect if some person that happens to be named idk wats a good name lets go with VIpoker something vaugue like that. still feel good about even beig in that spot |
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hghlndr6
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Makes you wonder how he ever got that deep into the tournament. His lucky day, i guess.
Tough one, man. Just move on. |
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suseJdroL
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Is this some sort of new play I've never heard of???? |
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| Camby24 wrote: |
| But the kicker to the story is that he says that, that is what the pros do and that, that is the typical move from the button!!!! ... Is this a typical move to risk your whole tournament regardless of what you have and go all in on the button, does it work all the time??? |
This is the "typical move" of someone who watches WAY too much TV. Pros do make moves like that, but it is not because it is typical. If they are reading their opponents well, blinds are really high, and they are very confident based on how the remaining players to act have been running and what they are doing that they will likely fold and allow them to steal the blinds and antes with a move like that, they might shoot that way to try to pick up the pot. Typically, they would do it from late position when it has been folded around to them and there are only a couple people left to act.
The key is that it is based on very accurate and detailed reads, a specific trend in play, high blinds and antes, and also the image of the player making the move. And, the reason why they push with any two cards is that they are playing the players, not the cards. Remember that their key is that the remaining players will fold. If that happens, you could have two blanks and it would not matter. You only have to have a hand if you get called.
You got unlucky enough to hit one of the many players who trys to do what the pros do without any comprehension of why they do it. You got even more unlucky cause he managed to suck out. Quite frankly, I am a little shocked that that happened, even in a freeroll, that late in the game. Typically, those people will have weeded out by then. |
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spike420211
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Is this some sort of new play I've never heard of???? |
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| suseJdroL wrote: |
This is the "typical move" of someone who watches WAY too much TV. |
does watching Letterman and Conan count too? |
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: Re: Is this some sort of new play I've never heard of???? |
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| telebob wrote: |
| Camby24 wrote: |
| Is this a typical move to risk your whole tournament regardless of what you have and go all in on the button, does it work all the time??? |
...works every time but the last time.
ummm, no. i'm pretty sure this ain't "the standard play," at any level. |
I had a guy move all-in on me in a 26k GTD tourney last week with T4o. I had KK and raised from the cut off. He moved all-in on the button, and doubled me up. Those moves don't work all the time. |
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suseJdroL
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| Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: Is this some sort of new play I've never heard of???? |
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| BOYNAMEDSUE wrote: |
| telebob wrote: |
| Camby24 wrote: |
| Is this a typical move to risk your whole tournament regardless of what you have and go all in on the button, does it work all the time??? |
...works every time but the last time.
ummm, no. i'm pretty sure this ain't "the standard play," at any level. |
I had a guy move all-in on me in a 26k GTD tourney last week with T4o. I had KK and raised from the cut off. He moved all-in on the button, and doubled me up. Those moves don't work all the time. |
That is a particularly poor move on his part. If you raised first, you just told him you have some type of strength. Unless you had an extremely loose image, he should have given you credit for something reasonably strong. To push with T4o is just ridiculous. I am not sure how you could justify that move. |
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