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dawuifae
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 Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:31 am Post subject: Warnung vor Playmoney-Betrügern |
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An alle Freeroller und Playmoney-Zocker und alle, die schnell ihre Playmoney in $ umwandeln wollen.
Die einzige Möglichkeit eure Playmoney in $ umzuwandeln ist in dem 500k Play Chip 40$ Freeroll, wo es als Preispool 40$ zu gewinnen gibt.
Durch Zufall bekam ich die folgende Situation mit und wollte euch unbedingt vor solchen Betrügern warnen.
Geht niemals auf so etwas ein, denn
1. ist es von FullTilt-Seite aus strengstens verboten (kann zur Schließung eures Accounts führen) und
2. will euch niemand Playmoney abkaufen; das sind immer Betrüger.
Zu erkennen war wrestlerX78 als "Scammer" schon von Anfang an, da er keine Länderangabe hatte, und somit überhaupt keinen Real-Money-Account besitzt.
Hier ist das komplette Chatprotokoll:
wrestlerX78 (Observer): "Opfer" u doing to sell me
play chips?
wrestlerX78 (Observer): u didnt come to the 100/200
table
wrestlerX78 (Observer): u going to sell me play chips
"Opfer"?
wrestlerX78 (Observer): are u ibownden?>
wrestlerX78 (Observer): "Opfer" are u there?
"Opfer": i don't know if i can trust you
wrestlerX78 (Observer): u can just come to the table
and ill talk to u
"Opfer": ok il be 5 minutes
wrestlerX78 (Observer): why so long
CNmatschi: GERMAN PLZ
"Opfer": smoke my pole !!& wipe
wrestlerX78 (Observer): me?
"Opfer": no CNmatschi
wrestlerX78 (Observer): "Opfer" was that comment
to me?
wrestlerX78 (Observer): o ok
wrestlerX78 (Observer): how many chips u have total
"Opfer"
"Opfer": 3.5 m
"Opfer": i had over 20 but i had a bad game a few
nights ago
"Opfer": so i'm not playing big for a while
wrestlerX78 (Observer): "Opfer" how many chips
total do u have
"Opfer": 3.5m
"Opfer": i had over 20 but lost it in a bad game a
few nights ago
wrestlerX78 (Observer): o ok
wrestlerX78 (Observer): can i buy just 500k-1m
wrestlerX78 (Observer): all i really need is 500k-1m
"Opfer": yeah
wrestlerX78 (Observer): ok
wrestlerX78 (Observer): i have to wait 4 mins for my
chips to reaload lol
wrestlerX78 (Observer): how about in 4 mins when
my chips re load we go new table?
"Opfer": ok kl
wrestlerX78 (Observer): ok
wrestlerX78 (Observer): how much going to sell me?
wrestlerX78 (Observer): 500k or 1m?
"Opfer": what ever man no more than 1.5
wrestlerX78 (Observer): ill buy 1.5 i guess
wrestlerX78 (Observer): ok my chips are reloaded
find me at a table and lets get to it
wrestlerX78: weel start out at this
wrestlerX78: i guess
"Opfer": i dont play omaha lol
wrestlerX78: yea i know this just an empty table lol
wrestlerX78: dude
wrestlerX78: do u know what were doing
wrestlerX78: ur giving me the chips
wrestlerX78: ibow ur giving me the chips
wrestlerX78: im buying chips
wrestlerX78: ur just giving them to me atm
wrestlerX78: u dont call my all in
wrestlerX78: call this
"Opfer": i aint giving you chips yet lol
wrestlerX78: im buying them though
"Opfer": how do i know you're gonna pay me lol
wrestlerX78: cause what i do is
wrestlerX78: i get half or somthing of the chips then i pay u
wrestlerX78: now u fold
wrestlerX78: cmon now u fold
wrestlerX78: ur supposed to fold it next
wrestlerX78: dude what are u doing
wrestlerX78: i thought i was buying chip from u ..
wrestlerX78: cmon dude let me buy chips from u
wrestlerX78: i just wanna buy 1.5m chips
wrestlerX78: so let me get 500k of the chips then i pay and
then i get the rest
"Opfer": yeah i think you're gonna rip me off
wrestlerX78: u understand how were going to do this?
wrestlerX78: dude no im not
wrestlerX78: why would i wanna rip off fake money chips
"Opfer": how much you paying then for 500k?
wrestlerX78: i just wanna play
wrestlerX78: umm 10 ?
wrestlerX78: per 500k
wrestlerX78: so 30 for 1.4
wrestlerX78: 1.5
wrestlerX78: if u comply
wrestlerX78: its a pretty good amoutn of cash
wrestlerX78: its usually 2 per 500k
wrestlerX78: but ill do 5 sicne ur cool
wrestlerX78: let me re load real quick
wrestlerX78: and then weel get started
wrestlerX78: and i can get half
wrestlerX78: wait just 1 sec stay here
wrestlerX78: ok
"Opfer": ok well i will give you the first 500k for $5 then $10
for the next 500k ... on the cnodition you send me the $5 first
"Opfer": so i know you're not a scam
wrestlerX78: can i plz just get the chips first i have to put
money into account in a sec
wrestlerX78: i will send but theres like a 5 min wait on my
comp for it
wrestlerX78: so while im sending ill get chips?
wrestlerX78: sound cool to ?
"Opfer": well ill wait 5 mins
wrestlerX78: how about this
wrestlerX78: so i know IM not getting scammed
wrestlerX78: let me get half of it first then ill send to u and then
i get other half
System: The $26 Token Frenzy ($6+$0.50 NL Hold'em (Turbo))
will be starting in 4 minutes.
wrestlerX78: that way i ony get half and then ill send and u get
the other half
wrestlerX78: that way its fair for everyone
"Opfer": so you want 750k first?
wrestlerX78: yea thats cool
"Opfer": ok
wrestlerX78: u know how to do this?
wrestlerX78: raise me 800
wrestlerX78: call
wrestlerX78: dont raise
wrestlerX78: now i bet 250 and u call
wrestlerX78: and then next one u fold
wrestlerX78: bet 200
wrestlerX78: dude
wrestlerX78: u dont take me all in ... ffs
wrestlerX78: now we have to do it again.
wrestlerX78: again
wrestlerX78: sit out after this
wrestlerX78: we need to find another table
wrestlerX78: u call this one
wrestlerX78: dotn take me all in
wrestlerX78: now u fold
wrestlerX78: mr darve leave
wrestlerX78: dude u fold.........
wrestlerX78: wow this is making me mad
wrestlerX78: do u want cash or not ibow...?
wrestlerX78: tell me right now
wrestlerX78: cause u keep taking me all in
"Opfer": yeah
wrestlerX78: then let me get the chips
wrestlerX78: stop taking me all in
wrestlerX78: follow me to a new table
wrestlerX78: sit out......
wrestlerX78: ok now dude plz listen to me
wrestlerX78: this is going to be easy
wrestlerX78: u need to fold at the very end
wrestlerX78: so i double up
"Opfer": yeah kl
wrestlerX78: ok deal in
wrestlerX78: dont take me all in
wrestlerX78: u call then fold
wrestlerX78: call
wrestlerX78: dont take me all in
wrestlerX78: dont
wrestlerX78: dont take me all in
wrestlerX78: just call
wrestlerX78: just call
wrestlerX78: u just call this one
wrestlerX78: u just call this one
wrestlerX78: just call this one
wrestlerX78: check
wrestlerX78: check it up
wrestlerX78: check it up
wrestlerX78: check it up
wrestlerX78: u check this one up
wrestlerX78: dont take me all in
wrestlerX78: dont
wrestlerX78: dont
wrestlerX78: dont
wrestlerX78: dont
wrestlerX78: u check this one up
wrestlerX78: check it up to me
wrestlerX78: check it up to me
wrestlerX78: now u fold
wrestlerX78: u know what i dont know if i should pay u ..
wrestlerX78: u always call the all in
wrestlerX78: do u want monmey?
wrestlerX78: dont call this one!!!!!!!!
wrestlerX78: dude come with me to 100/200 we need to talk
wrestlerX78: shouldnt take much time at all
wrestlerX78: dont
"Opfer": ooops
wrestlerX78: i only have 4k
"Opfer": fold
wrestlerX78: lol
wrestlerX78: i know
wrestlerX78: raise to wher eim ont all in
wrestlerX78: call?
wrestlerX78: what?
"Opfer": I have to raise
wrestlerX78: u call it
wrestlerX78: ok
wrestlerX78: yea
wrestlerX78: fold
wrestlerX78: we go new table
wrestlerX78: fold it
wrestlerX78: follow me
wrestlerX78: raise
wrestlerX78: nice lol
wrestlerX78: that takes me all in
wrestlerX78: raise 7400
wrestlerX78: just 7400
wrestlerX78: to make it safe
wrestlerX78: now raise 15200
"Opfer": just reraise me
wrestlerX78: we go into 1k/2k next
wrestlerX78: that will be much faster
wrestlerX78: yea then u just fold
wrestlerX78: 1k/2k next?
wrestlerX78: sit out after this one
wrestlerX78: then 1k/2k
wrestlerX78: 1k/2k
wrestlerX78: follow me
wrestlerX78: this will be much fsater
wrestlerX78: sit out
wrestlerX78: new table
wrestlerX78: plz leave sigator
wrestlerX78: ?
wrestlerX78: not all in
wrestlerX78: ?
Dealer: "Opfer" posts the small blind of 1,000
Dealer: wrestlerX78 posts the big blind of 2,000
wrestlerX78: not all in
Dealer: "Opfer" raises to 199,999
Dealer: wrestlerX78 raises to 200,000, and is all in
Dealer: lexxie sits down
Dealer: "Opfer" adds 199,999
Dealer: "Opfer" folds
Dealer: Uncalled bet of 1 returned to wrestlerX78
Dealer: wrestlerX78 mucks
Dealer: wrestlerX78 wins the pot (399,998)
Dealer: wrestlerX78 is sitting out
Dealer: "Opfer" is sitting out
Dealer: lexxie adds 80,000
Dealer: lexxie stands up
wrestlerX78: lexxie leave
Dealer: wrestlerX78 has returned
Dealer: "Opfer" has returned
Dealer: Hand #5485897227
Dealer: wrestlerX78 posts the small blind of 1,000
Dealer: "Opfer" posts the big blind of 2,000
Dealer: wrestlerX78 calls 1,000
Dealer: "Opfer" raises to 199,999
Dealer: wrestlerX78 raises to 397,998
Dealer: "Opfer" adds 199,999
Dealer: "Opfer" folds
Dealer: Uncalled bet of 197,999 returned to wrestlerX78
Dealer: wrestlerX78 mucks
Dealer: wrestlerX78 wins the pot (399,998)
Dealer: Hand #5485900581
Dealer: "Opfer" posts the small blind of 1,000
Dealer: wrestlerX78 posts the big blind of 2,000
Dealer: "Opfer" has 15 seconds left to act
Dealer: "Opfer" raises to 199,999
Dealer: wrestlerX78 has 15 seconds left to act
Dealer: wrestlerX78 raises to 397,998
Dealer: "Opfer" adds 199,999
Dealer: "Opfer" folds
Dealer: Uncalled bet of 197,999 returned to wrestlerX78
Dealer: wrestlerX78 mucks
Dealer: wrestlerX78 wins the pot (399,998)
Dealer: Hand #5485905041
wrestlerX78: can i plz get 1m then we give 5 cause 1m for 5
Dealer: wrestlerX78 posts the small blind of 1,000
Dealer: "Opfer" posts the big blind of 2,000
wrestlerX78: that would be a good deal
Dealer: wrestlerX78 has 15 seconds left to act
Dealer: wrestlerX78 calls 1,000
Dealer: "Opfer" raises to 199,999
Dealer: wrestlerX78 raises to 397,998
Dealer: "Opfer" adds 199,999
Dealer: "Opfer" is sitting out
Dealer: "Opfer" folds
Dealer: Uncalled bet of 197,999 returned to wrestlerX78
Dealer: wrestlerX78 mucks
Dealer: wrestlerX78 wins the pot (399,998)
wrestlerX78: 1 more
"Opfer": k
wrestlerX78: so im over 1m
wrestlerX78: 1 more
Dealer: "Opfer" has returned
Dealer: Hand #5485912086
Dealer: wrestlerX78 posts the small blind of 1,000
Dealer: "Opfer" posts the big blind of 2,000
Dealer: wrestlerX78 calls 1,000
Dealer: "Opfer" checks
Dealer: The flop is [9h 7d 6s]
Dealer: "Opfer" checks
wrestlerX78: call me 100k more
"Opfer": bet
Dealer: wrestlerX78 has 15 seconds left to act
Dealer: wrestlerX78 bets 100,000
Dealer: "Opfer" adds 2,000
Dealer: "Opfer" folds
Dealer: Uncalled bet of 100,000 returned to wrestlerX78
Dealer: wrestlerX78 mucks
Dealer: wrestlerX78 wins the pot (4,000)
Dealer: wrestlerX78 is sitting out
Dealer: "Opfer" is sitting out
wrestlerX78: ok thats good
wrestlerX78: let me see chip amount
Dealer: ryeguy003 sits down
Dealer: ryeguy003 adds 200,000
wrestlerX78: not to be dumb or anything but
wrestlerX78: can u take me to 1,111,111 chips lol?
wrestlerX78: that would be 30k more chips
wrestlerX78: could u do that andy?
"Opfer": why ?
wrestlerX78: i dunno lol
wrestlerX78: it would just be cool
wrestlerX78: come to new table
Dealer: wrestlerX78 stands up
Dealer: "Opfer" stands up
Dealer: wrestlerX78 has returned
Dealer: wrestlerX78 is sitting out
Dealer: "Opfer" adds 200,000
Dealer: "Opfer" is sitting out
wrestlerX78: 1 more double up then i pay
Dealer: wrestlerX78 has returned
wrestlerX78: sound fair?
"Opfer": transfer 5 bucks
"Opfer": as we agreed
wrestlerX78: 1 more double up ?
"Opfer": it was 750k
wrestlerX78: how about 1 more double up?
"Opfer": I made 1M
wrestlerX78: cmon 1 more double up?
"Opfer": fair enough
wrestlerX78: u doing 1 more double up?
"Opfer": after the 5
wrestlerX78: guess i cant pay then
wrestlerX78: cya!!!!!
wrestlerX78: u just got chinned
Dealer: wrestlerX78 is sitting out
Dealer: wrestlerX78 stands up
Dealer: "Opfer" stands up |
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MoneyManniEU
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hmmm, mein engl. reicht nicht. kann das jemand in 2-3 german Sätze zusammenfassen? das wär nett  |
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dawuifae
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| MoneyManniEU wrote: |
| hmmm, mein engl. reicht nicht. kann das jemand in 2-3 german Sätze zusammenfassen? das wär nett |
wrestlerX78 hat Leute an Tischen angesprochen, er wolle von denen 1-1,5 Millionen Play Chips für 10$ kaufen. Das ganze läuft dann an einem freien Tisch ab und die Chips wechseln den Besitzer. wrestler meinte, er würde erst die Hälfte an Chips bekommen und dann würde er den vereinbarten Betrag überweisen. Dann sollte er die andere Hälfte der Chips bekommen.
Das lief dann so ab, bis das Opfer 1 Million verloren hatte und dann ist der Betrüger vom Tisch abgehauen, mit ner freundlichen Bemerkung. |
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lollollol3000
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so ein trottel der ´´opfer´´
habt ihr ihn nicht gewarnt ???? |
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MoneyManniEU
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| dank für die Übersetzung. Ist natürlich blöd für die ehrlichen, die gibts wohl auch. Die bezahln dann als erster schätz ich. (achnee, ist ja verboten, hab eben oben nochmal gelesen) gibts da nix legales in die richtung? |
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Steinbeisser
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Wie wäre es mit petzen? Vielleicht sperren sie den einen wegen Betrug und den anderen wegen Dummheit!  |
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TilterHeidi
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| So etwas kannst du ruhig an den Support schicken. Sonst schick ich es denen. |
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dawuifae
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Idabi
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Selten sowas Dämliches gelesen.
Ich hoffe,wrestlerX78 spielt nie wieder an irgendeinem Online-Pokertisch!
Gute Arbeit,Kommissar dawuifae!! |
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Zappelruebe
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Idabi wrote: |
Selten sowas Dämliches gelesen.
Ich hoffe,wrestlerX78 spielt nie wieder an irgendeinem Online-Pokertisch!
Gute Arbeit,Kommissar dawuifae!! |
Ja genau. Ich finde FullTilt könnte ihn für die Arbeit belohnen mit FTP Punkten oder nem Bonus |
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killer811
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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ohman jetzt fangen die betrügereien schon mit playmoney an ^^ naja aber wer so dumm ist und sich drauf einlässt bei einem den er nicht kennt der hats irgendwie auch net besser verdient sorry 0 verständniss für solche dummheiten  |
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Idabi
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Zappelruebe wrote: |
| Idabi wrote: |
Selten sowas Dämliches gelesen.
Ich hoffe,wrestlerX78 spielt nie wieder an irgendeinem Online-Pokertisch!
Gute Arbeit,Kommissar dawuifae!! |
Ja genau. Ich finde FullTilt könnte ihn für die Arbeit belohnen mit FTP Punkten oder nem Bonus |
Find ich auch.
An die Full Tilt-Verantwortlichen:
Ein 12.000$-Main-Event-Package für dawuifae,bitte!! |
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dawuifae
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Idabi wrote: |
| Zappelruebe wrote: |
| Idabi wrote: |
Selten sowas Dämliches gelesen.
Ich hoffe,wrestlerX78 spielt nie wieder an irgendeinem Online-Pokertisch!
Gute Arbeit,Kommissar dawuifae!! |
Ja genau. Ich finde FullTilt könnte ihn für die Arbeit belohnen mit FTP Punkten oder nem Bonus |
Find ich auch.
An die Full Tilt-Verantwortlichen:
Ein 12.000$-Main-Event-Package für dawuifae,bitte!! |
lol.... find ich auch |
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Grasbueschel
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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selber schuld sag ich da nur.
wer so leichtgläubig ist, hat es fast schon verdient... |
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fighter1977
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Nur mal so gefragt, was hat der jetzt davon? ausser verdammt viel Spielgeld? |
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