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ephro Two Pair
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TestifyToLove Straight
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome! Thanks for sharing!  |
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fulltiltblog High Card
Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:13 pm Post subject: consider your limits... |
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I agree with that list , however make sure to take into account the price of the game...and I dont know what that book says but raising preflop ....in a 10 handed game is just dumb.
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CoolFin69 Flush
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Posts: 126
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:44 pm Post subject: blah blah blah |
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O/8 isn't about preflop, as there really is no "bad" hands besides trips and quads... the majority of combinations are capable of giving you shots at either side if not both...
there are a few REALLY "good" hands, obviously like AA23 double suited, but even those are easily beat as well...
This game isn't about preflop, as most "pros" won't be raising/re-raising pre... it's about knowing where you stand after the flop and driving, riding or getting off at that point |
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rbenny777 High Card
Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 1 Location: maryland
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| i do well at omaha but cantt seem to get over the hump it just seems like u have to have the nuts t win |
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Jaconda78 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4177
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| Omaha is about pushing small edges, since you are very rarely a big favorite like you are in hold em. If you do have a small edge, you need to raise. I have never, ever, seen a pro recommend never raising or reraising preflop. Yes, omaha is more about post-flop play, but get your money in as a favorite, even a small one. |
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gvi003 High Card
Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Memphis, Tn
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: |
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| Jaconda78 wrote: |
| Omaha is about pushing small edges, since you are very rarely a big favorite like you are in hold em. If you do have a small edge, you need to raise. I have never, ever, seen a pro recommend never raising or reraising preflop. Yes, omaha is more about post-flop play, but get your money in as a favorite, even a small one. |
Tj and McEvoy agree to not raising preflop as a rule, but then again they say there are always exceptions to the rules. |
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bennyprofane Full House
Joined: 28 Dec 2005 Posts: 169
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On the topic of raising or not pre-flop, I think a lot depends on if you are playing limit, PL, or NL and also if you are a strong Omaha H/L player. I think a raise with a very strong hand like AA23 double-suited is better in limit. In PL, it can build the pot to the point where you're getting such good odds after the flop and on 4th, that you feel compelled to bet into the pot or call a bet with less than a made hand or a very strong draw.
If you're confident in your post-flop play in PL or NL Omaha H/L, and have the discipline to get away from a big hand that doesn't hit, then you should be more inclined to raise pre-flop than if you're a relative newcomer who can't read the texture of the flop or your opponents as well in Omaha. The newcomer should limp with the strong hands until they feel confident enough in their post-flop play to make these raises and build the pot.
In Limit, especially loose low-limit, I would cap the betting pre-flop every time with AA23 or any of the other best 10 or 15 starting hands, whether I was a newbie or not, because I stand to lose a lot less than in a PL game if my hand does not materialize. In PL, a newbie puts his entire stack at risk by escalating a pot he's not equipped to win against a better player. |
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EzmoneyDRE Flush
Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 133 Location: Texas
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| For best starting hands if you want to purchase a book, go with Hellmuth's Play Poker Like the Pros. For every game there is a section with the best starting hands. |
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Paprika Full House
Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 194
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| How much should starting hands change in an O8 SNG compared to a reg ring game? |
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mtm1980 High Card
Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 3 Location: Denver Colorado
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:43 pm Post subject: Re: blah blah blah |
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O/8 isn't about preflop, as there really is no "bad" hands besides trips and quads... the majority of combinations are capable of giving you shots at either side if not both...
there are a few REALLY "good" hands, obviously like AA23 double suited, but even those are easily beat as well...
This game isn't about preflop, as most "pros" won't be raising/re-raising pre... it's about knowing where you stand after the flop and driving, riding or getting off at that point |
Read Super System II and then come tell us this again.
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AllInDrawinDead Royal Flush
Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 580 Location: New York, NY
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| True. Bobby Baldwin recommends plenty of situations that are worth raising in preflop either to narrow the field or to build the pot. Whoever said that there is no "bad hands" in omaha 8 doesn't know what they are talking about. what about K37J not suited? You want to play hands that offer you a chance to scoop the pot. Splitting is not the goal and with a hand like the one I mentioned, you are only likely to win the high if you make a full house or broadway straight. Even if Q 10 does flop, you won't get odds to chase the straight unless you have a wrap draw with AKJ9. |
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