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rockinrobt1970
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| Im not sure what rule num 8 is but Im assuming you are referring to the no talk during the hand. It prob says something like this. Any talk of the bad beat while the hand is in progress can or will nullify the jackpot. It is mainly meant for people that are in the hand together and say something stupid like lets check it down to see if we cant get the bad beat. Also I have seen winning jackpot hands mucked because the person in the the hand didnt know about any jackpot. Very slim chance but possable. It is always part of the players responsibilty to know what is going on by him or herself rather than hearing it from others. But on the other hand as long as the play of the hand and the betting is not altered, certain talk would not automatically void the jackpot. |
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snowman315
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| rockinrobt1970 wrote: |
| Im not sure what rule num 8 is but Im assuming you are referring to the no talk during the hand. It prob says something like this. Any talk of the bad beat while the hand is in progress can or will nullify the jackpot. It is mainly meant for people that are in the hand together and say something stupid like lets check it down to see if we cant get the bad beat. Also I have seen winning jackpot hands mucked because the person in the the hand didnt know about any jackpot. Very slim chance but possable. It is always part of the players responsibilty to know what is going on by him or herself rather than hearing it from others. But on the other hand as long as the play of the hand and the betting is not altered, certain talk would not automatically void the jackpot. |
That is the rule I was talking about...that is also my interpretation of the rule...too bad you aren't still working there so we would have our money. Thanks RT and maybe I'll see you at the WSOP again this year. |
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hack16
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Joined: 22 Apr 2008
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| Quit ur whining!!! you are back out there playn tryn to bribe dealers!!! mayb you should shut up and face it you are not gettn paid!!!!!!! |
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snowman315
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| hack16 wrote: |
| Quit ur whining!!! you are back out there playn tryn to bribe dealers!!! mayb you should shut up and face it you are not gettn paid!!!!!!! |
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hack16
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Joined: 22 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Its just unfortunate that the floor was dealing otherwise u get paid just a tough beat for you guys!!!! shoulda went to gaming before hiring a lawyer and writing bad thngs bout them isnt gnna help ur cause!!!! tribal court is tough to beat with a white lawyer also!!! |
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arter49
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| RT, just a couple of points I would like to make, and since I respect your opinion, please feel free to respond. First, what are the advantages in Royal River not paying???? I don't see any. You have pissed off players who have spent a lot of time and money in both the poker room and casino. The money they would have paid out was rake money, so it's not out of their pocket. Now, they have had to hire lawyers, have hearings, etc., all money and time out of their pockets. Additionally, the poker room has slowed down considerably, costing the casino, and now the dealers money(add on top of that, the $5,000 in tips that would have been paid out that night, and I will still pay my share if they end up paying, it's not the dealers fault this happened). The Bad Beat and mini Bad Beats have been froze, so they no longer have that draw, and this may go on for the unforseeable future. I've noticed Watertown has been advertising in the local papers, and most of the players I know are heading up that direction. What are the advantages in paying???? Life goes back to normal. The Bad Beat get's paid, the secondary Bad Beat now goes on the board, and almost $30,000 can be won. They can advertize that $96,000 was paid out, and the new jackpot is ready to be won, as well as the mini Bad Beats. Players and their spouses return, the casino makes money, the poker room makes money, the dealers make money and the players are happy. |
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arter49
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| RT, I would like your responses on a little different respect. First, what Oth said was AFTER the Bad Beat was dealt. It was said after I had four queens, and after Bill had AAAQQ. Second, what is your opinion on Royal River Casinos responsibility to protect its players???? On the Rules Board is a rule which states players that are intoxicated cannot play poker. This is a rule no different than the rule they are using to justify not paying the $96,000. Additionally, Oth had been warned over and over about saying "Bad Beat" at the tables. This is DIRECTLY from the transcripts at the hearing, refering to Oth, lawyer, "He used to come in quite a bit, didn't he?", dealer, "Once in a while, yep", lawyer, "And sometimes he would talk too much, didn't he?" dealer, "I did have to tell him not to talk about the Bad Beat", lawyer, "In the past, you have had to tell him?", dealer, "Yes, I have", lawyer, "Because he talks", dealer, "Yes", lawyer, "Amnd he drinks while he plays too, deosn't he?", dealer, "Yes", ....... lawyer, "How many times have you yourself or other employees that you know of had to say something to him about talking in the poker room?" dealer, "I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER DELAERS BESIDES MYSELF THAT HAVE TOLD HIM HE CAN'T TALK ABOUT..." lawyer, "Because he's one that talks too much when he plays poker, isn't he?", dealer, "HE TALKS ABOUT THE BAD BEAT A LOT", lawyer, "Pardon", dealer, "HE TALKS ABOUT THE BAD BEAT A LOT", lawyer, "He talks about the Bad Beat a lot?", dealer, "YES". With the Bad Beat at $96,000, is there not some responsiblity in protecting the players????? Here you have a player, who has not once, but repeatedly said Bad Beat at the tables, while drinking, and was allowed to play. Is it any surprise that sooner or later, this could happen???? Is it fair for any players at the table playing with him to be put at risk of losing considerable money because he should have been kicked out of the poker room for this????? If the casino followed the other rules on the board as well as they have followed the "no talk" rule, this would never have happened. I would be at Royal River tonight playing poker, trying to win another Bad Beat, with good memories of the time I hit the big one. Instead, the casino is a loser in this, the players at that table are losers at this point, and the dealers at losers. I hope Royal River reasons this out, and pays us for the benefit of everyone involved. I have not returned to Royal River since this has happened, but if and when they pay, I will return to what was and could be a great poker room, to play again, with a nice wad of cash to tip the dealers that were there February 2, 2008. |
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arter49
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| gonefshng, if you are at liberty, can you give just a little idea of what your problem involved, how many months it was to settle, and why it took so long to settle??? Thanks. |
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gonefshng
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| gonefshng, if you are at liberty, can you give just a little idea of what your problem involved, how many months it was to settle, and why it took so long to settle??? Thanks. |
Get ready for an hour or more of reading. Read this thread and follow all the links in it.
http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com/viewtopic.php?t=48653&highlight=
There is a little more to it, but this will give you a general idea. GL |
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arter49
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the response. Shows persistance sometimes pays off. We have many options left and hopefully our persistance will work in our favor, too. Congrads!! |
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arter49
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| Rt, busy or is the casino pressuring you to play quite. |
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snowman315
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| I would be surprised if the Casino told Robbie he couldn't talk about this...he isn't tied to them any longer that I'm aware of. |
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arter49
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| he sure went quite fast. anyway, supposed to be a court hearing soon, but all is quite. all the bad beat money is still froze, so at least that is safe. heard anything yourself?? hard to believe it has been over 3 months. |
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snowman315
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| arter...I'll send you an email with the only thing I've heard. I don't know if we want it posted on here or not. |
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rockinrobt1970
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Joined: 20 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: bad beat |
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| Rt, busy or is the casino pressuring you to play quite. |
There has been no pressure on me. I have been busy getting ready for the series. I leave tomorrow so If I dont respond that is the reason. There is no bonus for the poker room(casino) not to pay this out. When something like this happens unfortionatly there is no good that can come from it at this point. The tribe and the casino carry this tremendous pride factor around with them and will never admit to being wrong so good luck with that. I have herd tell that RRC is thinking abt getting rid of the poker room. If that was the case they will have to give the bad beat money away by having some kind of drawings or high hand jackpots untill the money is gone. Yes it would have been alot better for business if this would have got payed out to the rightfull people. But now it is so messed up that there is no correcting. And yes they are stuburn enough to probably close the room before they do the right thing. This is because they know nothing about poker or how it should operate and never have. That is all I have to say about that. Good luck with your quest. |
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