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DeSangre
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:07 am    Post subject: Bad call on the turn? Reply with quote

Full Tilt Poker Game #5088742860: Table Somerset Hills - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Omaha H/L - 3:43:02 ET - 2008/02/02
Seat 1: Hajenius ($11.50)
Seat 2: ohiothom ($30)
Seat 3: QiD ($65.25)
Seat 4: KatmanWalkin ($42.70)
Seat 5: DeSangre ($7)
Seat 6: horsepucky ($23.10)
Seat 7: AmourOfGod ($52.60)
Seat 8: aaron70 ($17.30)
Seat 9: SHADOW386 ($21.75)
KatmanWalkin posts the small blind of $0.25
DeSangre posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DeSangre [As Jd 3d 2s]
horsepucky folds
AmourOfGod calls $0.50
aaron70 calls $0.50
SHADOW386 calls $0.50
Hajenius folds
ohiothom folds
QiD calls $0.50
KatmanWalkin calls $0.25
DeSangre has 15 seconds left to act
DeSangre raises to $1.50
AmourOfGod has 15 seconds left to act
AmourOfGod calls $1
aaron70 calls $1
SHADOW386 calls $1
QiD calls $1
KatmanWalkin calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Kc 9c 8d]
KatmanWalkin checks
DeSangre checks
AmourOfGod checks
aaron70 bets $0.50
SHADOW386 calls $0.50
QiD calls $0.50
KatmanWalkin calls $0.50
DeSangre calls $0.50
AmourOfGod calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [Kc 9c 8d] [4d]
KatmanWalkin checks
DeSangre checks
AmourOfGod has 15 seconds left to act
AmourOfGod checks
aaron70 bets $0.50
SHADOW386 calls $0.50
QiD calls $0.50
KatmanWalkin calls $0.50
DeSangre calls $0.50
AmourOfGod raises to $50.60, and is all in
aaron70 has 15 seconds left to act
aaron70 folds
SHADOW386 has 15 seconds left to act
SHADOW386 folds
QiD folds
KatmanWalkin folds
DeSangre calls $4.50, and is all in
AmourOfGod shows [4c Ks Ad 6d]
DeSangre shows [As Jd 3d 2s]
Uncalled bet of $45.60 returned to AmourOfGod
*** RIVER *** [Kc 9c 8d 4d] [Td]
AmourOfGod shows a flush, Ace high, for high
DeSangre shows a flush, Jack high, for high
AmourOfGod wins the pot ($22.80) with a flush, Ace high
DeSangre is sitting out
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $24 | Rake $1.20
Board: [Kc 9c 8d 4d Td]
Seat 1: Hajenius didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: ohiothom didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: QiD (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: KatmanWalkin (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: DeSangre (big blind) showed [As Jd 3d 2s] and lost with HI: a flush, Jack high
Seat 6: horsepucky didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: AmourOfGod showed [4c Ks Ad 6d] and won ($22.80) with HI: a flush, Ace high
Seat 8: aaron70 folded on the Turn
Seat 9: SHADOW386 folded on the Turn

Wrong decision? Was this an easy fold?
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Zophar
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not necessarily a bad turn call because you were priced in for 1/2 pot(about 2/1 for low only).

I just don't like the float on the flop. Either c-bet, chk/raise or fold. You defined your hand to your oppenents by the way you played it. You obviously had 1 of 2 hand groupings by smooth calling, the the most likely being exactly what you had.

A raise from the BB typically means AA or great wheel cards. AA is almost always a full pot raise. Smallish value bet comes across as pot building, which points to a 3 or 4 to a wheel type hand. The way it was played, I guarantee the villian knew he had you beat and were still drawing.

Raising from the BB in PL/NL can be very tricky. If it's done, you have to be either looking to isolate(IE-bet bigger) and also be prepared to stay aggressive post flop or check/fold. With so many limpers and such a small raise, you put yourself in the position of facing a large pot, multi way and UTG. Not necessarily an enviable position.
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