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Honest_Rob · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: Do we like this line?

Critique please. Is my flop play too aggressive? I 3-bet because I know he has a set if he 4-bets.

Full Tilt Poker Game #4711488774: Table Old Time - $1/$2 - Limit Omaha H/L - 14:34:26 ET - 2008/01/02
Seat 1: fulllucky123 ($20), is sitting out
Seat 2: x Sparks x ($71.50), is sitting out
Seat 3: Ihatemyname ($37.75)
Seat 4: Honest_Rob ($26.15)
Seat 5: Foxx 520 ($4.25)
Seat 6: analyser2 ($113.65)
Seat 7: Celtic woman ($20), is sitting out
Seat 8: mmiller711 ($28)
mmiller711 posts the small blind of $0.50
Ihatemyname posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [4c Ac 7s 2s]
Celtic woman has returned
Honest_Rob raises to $2
Foxx 520 folds
analyser2 folds
mmiller711 folds
Ihatemyname calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Jc Tc 2d]
Ihatemyname checks
Honest_Rob bets $1
Ihatemyname raises to $2
Honest_Rob raises to $3
Ihatemyname raises to $4
Honest_Rob calls $1
*** TURN *** [Jc Tc 2d] [6s]
Ihatemyname bets $2
Honest_Rob calls $2
*** RIVER *** [Jc Tc 2d 6s] [7c]
Ihatemyname checks
Honest_Rob bets $2
Ihatemyname calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***

sixandfour · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject:

I understand your reasoning with the 4bet, but in this case it suffices to know that you're beat on the flop. There are 2 streets to come, and you will be able to gather that info just the same if he continues to be the aggressor, and save a few bucks if you miss. Either way, you can't expect a huge payoff after the third club hits, and any board pair should freeze you regardless, so it's best to draw cheaply.

craigo6x · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject:

Yes-the flop is the time to build this pot. I'd play that hand the exact same way. On the turn picking up the 2nd nut low draw is beautiful. I assume that river gave you a scoop unless he had like JJA3?

Nice hand and well played.

Zophar · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject:

How do you know he has a set if he 4-bets? Any multiwrap w/flush draw is probably doing the same. With basically a bare nutflush draw and backdoor low draw, I'm not in such a hurry to be building a pot on this flop, especially if I'm facing a set. Actually, your equity is the worst against a set, about a 7/3 dog.

I'm just not a big fan of pumping bare draws in LO8 vs. obvious action. If you had anything else to go with it, I'm in favor.

Honest_Rob · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject:

Well that was my thinking while playing. Yeah I guess you're right he could have a huge draw and 4-bet also though I think it would be much more likely to be a set. I think where I went wrong here is it doesn't matter really. I'm drawing to the flush and that's about it. I guess I wanted the info unless I caught an A or another 2 but that's not as likely and I guess not worth the extra bets. O8 is definitely my worst game so please pick me apart.

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