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Honest_Rob
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree betting sixth is probably the best line. I immediately second guessed myself after the hand and wanted some feedback. Thanks for the help.

Full Tilt Poker Game #4533087026: $20 + $2 Sit & Go (34344513), Table 1 - 50/100 Ante 10 - Limit Razz - 13:53:32 ET - 2007/12/17
Seat 1: kasketten (1,600)
Seat 2: 1tokeovrtheline (2,025)
Seat 3: Honest_Rob (1,500)
Seat 4: ERMA4 (1,190)
Seat 5: Kleinen (1,325)
Seat 6: Suck0ut_55 (1,530)
Seat 7: betty boob 1 (1,070)
Seat 8: chance457 (1,760)
kasketten antes 10
1tokeovrtheline antes 10
Honest_Rob antes 10
ERMA4 antes 10
Kleinen antes 10
Suck0ut_55 antes 10
betty boob 1 antes 10
chance457 antes 10
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to kasketten [2d]
Dealt to 1tokeovrtheline [6h]
Dealt to Honest_Rob [2s Ad] [6d]
Dealt to ERMA4 [4h]
Dealt to Kleinen [6s]
Dealt to Suck0ut_55 [9c]
Dealt to betty boob 1 [7s]
Dealt to chance457 [Qd]
chance457 is high with [Qd]
chance457 brings in for 15
kasketten has 15 seconds left to act
kasketten folds
1tokeovrtheline has 15 seconds left to act
1tokeovrtheline is sitting out
1tokeovrtheline has timed out
1tokeovrtheline folds
Honest_Rob completes it to 50
ERMA4 folds
1tokeovrtheline has returned
Kleinen has 15 seconds left to act
Kleinen raises to 100
Suck0ut_55 folds
betty boob 1 folds
chance457 folds
Honest_Rob raises to 150
Kleinen calls 50
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [2s Ad 6d] [3h]
Dealt to Kleinen [6s] [5c]
Honest_Rob bets 50
Kleinen calls 50
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [2s Ad 6d 3h] [Jh]
Dealt to Kleinen [6s 5c] [4c]
Kleinen has 15 seconds left to act
Kleinen bets 100
Honest_Rob calls 100
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [2s Ad 6d 3h Jh] [7d]
Dealt to Kleinen [6s 5c 4c] [Qh]
Honest_Rob checks
Kleinen has 15 seconds left to act
Kleinen checks
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [2s Ad 6d 3h Jh 7d] [5d]
Honest_Rob bets 100
Kleinen calls 100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Honest_Rob shows [5d 2s 6d 3h Jh 7d Ad] 6,5,3,2,A
Kleinen mucks
Honest_Rob wins the pot (895) with 6,5,3,2,A
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 895 | Rake 0
Seat 1: kasketten folded on 3rd St.
Seat 2: 1tokeovrtheline folded on 3rd St.
Seat 3: Honest_Rob showed [5d 2s 6d 3h Jh 7d Ad] and won (895) with 6,5,3,2,A
Seat 4: ERMA4 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 5: Kleinen mucked [Th 8c 6s 5c 4c Qh As] - 8,6,5,4,A
Seat 6: Suck0ut_55 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 7: betty boob 1 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 8: chance457 folded on 3rd St.
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alex j beeson
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Joined: 15 Jul 2007
Posts: 829

PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice hand. It looks like he most likely had (A8) 6 at the beggining.

His board was very scary though and not betting the 6th only cost you 100 less chips won. Worth it to be sure of the win on the 7th, if you want to look at it that way.

Very nice. Hindsight is always 20/20 especially since you see now he was drawing dead on the 7th. He was betting his board against yours like Slick said.
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inabunnysuit
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Joined: 08 Aug 2005
Posts: 24

PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Razz isn't my best game, but why did you 3 bet 3rd if not to raise on 5th? 7642 out? Is this setting him up for more big bets or what? If the other guy is competent, he knows he 'has' to peel one on 4th. The 3 should look suspicious to him (just like the 5 he catches should look to you). Maybe he's having connection problems and maybe the delay on 5th is 'should I or shouldn't I?' You have at least 5 outs twice to his maybe 3 (like 5.4-1) if he's got it. If it's 7x down ~ 9-11 him and everything else is in your favor. Ok, this line is maybe a little cash-y (but the table is still full, so maybe not), but tight-aggressive is aggressive when you enter a pot. So I like the 3 bet on 3rd, but think you need to follow that up.
Are you reading the guys on your right (for holding probable outs)?

So, I think 5th is a raise and 6th is an easy bet.
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