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alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

Ok I have finally figured out how to save hand histories.
This is a SnG razz, for just a buck but it will show my thinking and how to win a SnG razz session.
I won this in the end and the game lasted about 150 hands.
I will not go through every single hand but will show the most interesting and try to go through and show what I am thinking and how to learn about the other players to give you the edge.

Very early on (in the first 10 hands or so) I got knocked down low, low on chips but in doing so I learned exactly how everyone else played and thus was able to come back through good reads and a little luck.

This is the first hand;

doubleN90 brings in for 10
alex j beeson calls 10
maparound folds
GotoHelenBack completes it to 30
Adot781 folds
sb007ck folds
bhavz raises to 60
biggerjohn666 folds
doubleN90 folds
alex j beeson calls 50
GotoHelenBack raises to 90
bhavz raises to 120
alex j beeson calls 60
GotoHelenBack calls 30
OK, THIS IS THE FIRST HAND OF THE GAME.
AT START EVEN THOUGH I HAD A PAIR I SEE FROM THE BAORD
A 2, 7 AND 8 ARE BURNED, i DONT CARE MUCH ABOUT THE 2 SINCE I ALREADY HAVE ONE,
THIS IS MAIN REASON I WENT AHEAD AND TRIED TO SEE THE LATER STREETS.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [6d 2h 6h] [2s]
Dealt to GotoHelenBack [2c] [Qs]
Dealt to bhavz [8c] [4d]
alex j beeson checks
GotoHelenBack bets 30
bhavz raises to 60
alex j beeson calls 60
GotoHelenBack calls 30
OK NOW I HAVE TWO PAIR BUT MY BOARD LOOKS STRONG,
I CHECK WHICH IS A MISTAKE, I JUST TOLD THE OTHER PLAYERS I PAIRED
BUT IT IS OK AS I HAVE GIVEN UP ON THIS HAND,
WHAT I AM GOING TO DO NOW IS LEARN ABOUT THE PLAYERS ON THE TABLE!!!!!*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [6d 2h 6h 2s] [7c]
Dealt to GotoHelenBack [2c Qs] [6s]
Dealt to bhavz [8c 4d] [9s]
alex j beeson checks
GotoHelenBack bets 60
bhavz raises to 120
alex j beeson calls 120
GotoHelenBack calls 60
OK, I CHECK AND THEN CALL THE RAISE, I HAVE DEAD MONEY IN THE POT BUT NOW I HAVE LEARNED THAT
"HELEN" WILL CONTINUE ON A HAND EVEN WITH A BRICK. IF SHE HAS 4 OUT OF THE FIRST 5 CARDS GOOD WHE WILL GO THE DISTANCE
I BELIEVE.
"BHAV" I LEARN MUST THINK A 9 HIGH IS A GOOD HAND (OH LORD!)
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [6d 2h 6h 2s 7c] [Tc]
Dealt to GotoHelenBack [2c Qs 6s] [5c]
Dealt to bhavz [8c 4d 9s] [4c]
alex j beeson checks
GotoHelenBack bets 60
bhavz raises to 120
alex j beeson folds
GotoHelenBack raises to 180
bhavz raises to 240
GotoHelenBack calls 60
HELEN JUST COMPLETED HER HAND I FIGURE AND I FOLD. BHAVZ HAS NOT FIGURED THAT OUT YET IT APPEARS.
*** 7TH STREET ***
GotoHelenBack bets 60
bhavz raises to 120
GotoHelenBack raises to 180
bhavz raises to 240
GotoHelenBack calls 60
WELL BHAVZ STILL DOESNT KNOW FOR SOME REAASON THAT HE IS BEAT!! HE IS ABOUT TO FIND OUT!*** SHOW DOWN ***
bhavz shows [Ks 7s 8c 4d 9s 4c Ad] 9,8,7,4,A
GotoHelenBack shows [3d As 2c Qs 6s 5c Ah] 6,5,3,2,A
GotoHelenBack wins the pot (1,910) with 6,5,3,2,A

Well, Helen played the hand well, and an early brick wont discourage her. She had an excellent starting hand and knew she had won the hand on 6th street. I will have to watch out for her.....

alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

OK This is the 8th hand or so, up until this point i have folded every hand and have been watching the others.

By all means if anyone would like to critic my play feel free.

In this hand I get a good read on "Adot"

*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Tc Ac] [6c]
Dealt to maparound [Qs]
Dealt to GotoHelenBack [9c]
Dealt to Adot781 [5s]
Dealt to sb007ck [Jd]
Dealt to bhavz [7h]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [Td]
Dealt to doubleN90 [7s]
maparound is high with [Qs]
maparound brings in for 10
GotoHelenBack folds
Adot781 calls 10
sb007ck folds
bhavz folds
biggerjohn666 folds
doubleN90 folds
alex j beeson calls 10
OK THIS IS THE 8TH HAND, I HAVE FOLDED EVERY ONE OF MY HANDS I HAD SINCE THE FIRST HAND.
I HAVE A 10 IN THE HOLE, THIS IS A LESS THAN PERFECT STARTING HAND BUT ON THE BOARD I SEE ONLY 2 CARDS BURNED
5'S AND 7. I GO AHEAD AND CALL AS MY BOARD IS LOOKING GOOD.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Tc Ac 6c] [7d]
Dealt to maparound [Qs] [3d]
Dealt to Adot781 [5s] [4s]
Adot781 bets 40
alex j beeson calls 40
maparound calls 40
MY BOARD STILL LOOKS GOOD, ADOT IS LOOKING BETTER. ALSO NOTE THAT ADOT HAS FOLDED EVERY SINGLE HAND ON THE 3RD
TO THIS POINT. I KNOW THAT HE HAS NO BRICKS AND HAS 4 GOOD SOLID CARDS RIGHT NOW.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Tc Ac 6c 7d] [3h]
Dealt to maparound [Qs 3d] [9d]
Dealt to Adot781 [5s 4s] [Ah]
Adot781 bets 80
alex j beeson calls 80
maparound folds
UH OH, SINCE I KNOW ADOT IS A TIGHT PLAYER HE JUST MIGHT HAVE HIT WHEEL RIGHT HERE. UNFORTUNATELY, MY BOARD IS LOOKING REALLY
GOOD AND I WILL NOT FOLD.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Tc Ac 6c 7d 3h] [5d]
Dealt to Adot781 [5s 4s Ah] [6s]
Adot781 bets 80
alex j beeson calls 80
I HAVE COMPLETED MY HAND NOW, NO MATTER WHAT I AM IN IT TILL THE 7TH. I KNOW I MAY BE BEAT BUT I WILL HAVE TO SEE
JUST IN CASE I HAVE MISREAD ADOT AND HE IS JUST PUSHING HIS GOOD BOARD AND HAVE PAIRS OR BRICKS IN THE HOLE.

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Tc Ac 6c 7d 3h 5d] [Kd]
Adot781 bets 80
alex j beeson calls 80
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Adot781 shows [9s 3s 5s 4s Ah 6s 2d] 5,4,3,2,A
alex j beeson mucks
Adot781 wins the pot (686) with 5,4,3,2,A
YEP, I KNEW IT, ADOT HAS THE WHEEL. I NOW HAVE A VERY GOOD READ ON HIM THOUGH, HE WONT GET ME AGAIN........

alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

11TH hand, this will have been only the 3rd hand i have gotten involved with. Helen has taken a chip lead, a nice lead. John has slowly built his stack and in 2nd place with 1800 chips or so.

*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [2d 7c] [3h]
Dealt to maparound [8d]
Dealt to GotoHelenBack [Ts]
Dealt to Adot781 [Js]
Dealt to sb007ck [Tc]
Dealt to bhavz [2c]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [3d]
Dealt to doubleN90 [9c]
Adot781 is high with [Js]
Adot781 brings in for 10
sb007ck folds
bhavz folds
biggerjohn666 calls 10
doubleN90 folds
alex j beeson completes it to 40
maparound has 15 seconds left to act
maparound calls 40
GotoHelenBack folds
Adot781 folds
biggerjohn666 calls 30
OK THIS IS THE 11TH HAND AND I HAVE GOTTEN MY VERY FIRST DECENT STARTING HAND,
THE BOARD LOOKS GOOD FOR ME, A 2 AND A 3 ON THE BOARD MEANS I AM LESS LIKELY TO PAIR MY 2 AND 3.
THIS IS A CASE WHERE ONE SHOULD COMPLETE ON THE THIRD INSTEAD OF JUST CALLING THE BRING IN!!!
COMPLETING SHOULD PUSH THE 9 OUT AND BOTH OF THE 10'S. I WILL ASSUME THAT THE 8 (MAPAROUND) AND THE 3 (BIGGERJOHN)
WILL CALL.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [2d 7c 3h] [Ks]
Dealt to maparound [8d] [9d]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [3d] [9s]
biggerjohn666 checks
alex j beeson checks
maparound bets 40
biggerjohn666 has 15 seconds left to act
biggerjohn666 calls 40
alex j beeson calls 40
OK, I JUST BRICKED, ALL CAN SEE, I HAVE TO CHECK. BIG JOHN IS LOOKING BEST BUT HE CHECKS?!?!? THIS IS THE FIRST HAND I HAVE PLAYED WITH HIM,
TIME FOR ME TO LEARN ABOUT HIM.....

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [2d 7c 3h Ks] [Jd]
Dealt to maparound [8d 9d] [Th]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [3d 9s] [6s]
biggerjohn666 checks
alex j beeson checks
maparound checks
OK EVERYONE CHECKS, MY HAND IS DEAD. I CAN SEE WHY MAP CHECKED, BUT WHY HAS JOHN CHECKED???

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [2d 7c 3h Ks Jd] [Jc]
Dealt to maparound [8d 9d Th] [4d]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [3d 9s 6s] [7h]
biggerjohn666 has 15 seconds left to act
biggerjohn666 checks
alex j beeson checks
maparound checks
WELL ALL CHECKS AGAIN, MY HAND IS TOTALLY GONE, NO CHANCE AT ALL OF WINNING, I WISH SOMEONE WOULD BET SO I CAN FOLD THIS GARBAGE....

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [2d 7c 3h Ks Jd Jc] [Kd]
biggerjohn666 bets 80
alex j beeson folds
maparound call
*** SHOW DOWN ***
biggerjohn666 shows [6c 5c 3d 9s 6s 7h Ac] 7,6,5,3,A
maparound mucks
biggerjohn666 wins the pot (466) with 7,6,5,3,As 80

JOHN FINALLY CALLS. HE HAD THE HAND WON ON THE 6TH, I WONDER WHY HE DID NOT BET????
THIS JOHN MAY BE A WILY ONE, I STILL NEED TO GET A BETTER READ ON HIM. IS IT POSSIBLE HE ONLY BETS ON THE SURE THING???
IF THAT IS THE CASE, I CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT LATER......

alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

Ok, at the start of the 12th hand here are the chips. As you can see, i have only been in 3 hands and lost all three. Along with the bringins i have suffered my chip stack is mighty low.
Helen with her aggresivness is out on top. John has quietly moved in to 2nd and Adot with his tight play has conserved his chips and made a few.

Bhavz is right where i would expect as i learned early on he might have a hard time telling when he is beat.

Seat 1: alex j beeson (745)
Seat 2: maparound (1,265)
Seat 3: GotoHelenBack (2,725)
Seat 4: Adot781 (1,781)
Seat 5: sb007ck (1,185)
Seat 6: bhavz (705), is sitting out
Seat 7: biggerjohn666 (2,143)
Seat 8: doubleN90 (1,451

alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [4h 6c] [8d]
Dealt to maparound [3s]
Dealt to GotoHelenBack [Jd]
Dealt to Adot781 [Kh]
Dealt to sb007ck [Tc]
Dealt to bhavz [Ac]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [Kc]
Dealt to doubleN90 [Kd]
Adot781 is high with [Kh]
Adot781 brings in for 10
sb007ck folds
bhavz folds
biggerjohn666 folds
doubleN90 folds
alex j beeson calls 10
maparound calls 10
GotoHelenBack folds
OK 12TH HAND, I HAVE A DECENT START. NOT PERFECT AND THE BOARD IS SHOWING TWO CARDS I NEED.
I DECIDE TO ONLY CALL THE BRING IN, I AM LOW ON CHIPS AND IF MY HAND GETS BAD I NEED TO SAVE AS MANY CHIPS AS POSSIBLE.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [4h 6c 8d] [4d]
Dealt to maparound [3s] [As]
Dealt to Adot781 [Kh] [Qs]
maparound checks
Adot781 checks
alex j beeson checks
OH MAN I PAIRED, LUCKILY IT IS CHECKS ALL AROUND. MAP IS PERPLEXING ME, HE IS NOT BETTING. HAS HE PAIRED? WHAT IS HE WAITING FOR?

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [4h 6c 8d 4d] [9s]
Dealt to maparound [3s As] [Jh]
Dealt to Adot781 [Kh Qs] [2d]
alex j beeson checks
maparound checks
Adot781 checks
MY BOARD STILL DOES NOT IMPROVE. I CHECK BUT I MAY HAVE MADE A MISTAKE. ADOT WOULD SURELY FOD IF I BET AS HE IS TIGHT AND HAS TWO BRICKS. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT MAP FOR SOME REASON.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [4h 6c 8d 4d 9s] [Jc]
Dealt to maparound [3s As Jh] [Qc]
Dealt to Adot781 [Kh Qs 2d] [9d]
alex j beeson bets 80
maparound calls 80
Adot781 folds
OK, MY HAND HAS REALLY TURNED FOR THE WORSE, BUT SO HAS EVERYONE ELSES. NO ONE HAS COMPLETED A DECENT HAND YET SO I STILL HAVE A CHANCE. I DECIDE TO TRY AND TAKE THE POT BUT MAP STICKS WITH ME. HE HAS TWO NICE HOLE CARDS I MUST ASSUME NOW. HE IS NOT AFRAID OF MY 98 AT ALL (ACTUALLY MY J9 BUT HE CANT KNOW THAT FOR SURE). IT APPEARS THAT MAP HAS WAITED UNTIL HE FELT GOOD ABOUT HIS CHANCES BEFORE GETTING INTO RISKING HIS CHIPS. FOR ALL HE KNOWS I HAVE A 98HIGH AND HE IS ON A DRAW.

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [4h 6c 8d 4d 9s Jc] [5c]
alex j beeson bets 80
maparound calls 80
I HIT A GOOD 7TH, MAP IS ON A DRAW. I BET, IF HE HIT HE WILL RAISE ME, IF HE DID NOT HIT HE WILL FOLD OR CALL.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
alex j beeson shows [6c 5c 8d 4d 9s Jc 4h] 9,8,6,5,4
maparound mucks
alex j beeson wins the pot (406) with 9,8,6,5,4
The limits are now 50/100 with an ante of 10
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 406 | Rake 0
Seat 1: alex j beeson showed [6c 5c 8d 4d 9s Jc 4h] and won (406) with 9,8,6,5,4
Seat 2: maparound mucked [Td 8s 3s As Jh Qc 7h] - T,8,7,3,A
I TOOK THE POT. NOT A LOT OF CHIPS BUT BETTER THAN LOSING THEM. AS YOU CAN SEE, BY MAP NOT SHOWING STRENGTH AND TRYIING TO PUSHME OFF THE HAND EARLY HAS COST HIM.

I started slightly better than map (map, 783 likely, me 468), Map played this well so that he did not lose many chips. He has gotten burned a couple of times by Helen and now he may be a little timid now. This is to my advantage.

Now Map played it like most would, he started with 4 decent cards on 4th street, took two bricks and had to rely on luck (like I did too). I get the better of it.

When this situation comes around to you on a table, even though I have a 9high I had to bet. I amy have lost if he had hit but if I checked Map most certainly would have checked as well leaving an even smaller bet.
In hindsight I see that I should have thrown out a bet on 5th street. For value. I may be a little timid with my short chip stack.

alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

14TH of the game I believe.

*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Th 4d] [3h]
Dealt to maparound [3d]
Dealt to GotoHelenBack [7c]
Dealt to Adot781 [5h]
Dealt to sb007ck [8h]
Dealt to bhavz [Jc]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [Js]
Dealt to doubleN90 [Kh]
doubleN90 is high with [Kh]
doubleN90 brings in for 15
alex j beeson calls 15
maparound has 15 seconds left to act
maparound folds
GotoHelenBack calls 15
Adot781 completes it to 50
sb007ck folds
bhavz folds
biggerjohn666 folds
doubleN90 folds
alex j beeson calls 35
GotoHelenBack folds
OK HAND NUMBER 14. I HAVE STARTED LESS THAN PERFECT...AGAIN. ON THE BOARD I SEE A 7, 5 AND 8 BURNED. I SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS HAND BUT NOW I AM GOING TO TRY AND PUSH AND BLUFF. SHOW STRENGTH, I MAY NOT HAVE THE BEST HAND BUT I CAN PRETEND....

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Th 4d 3h] [Ad]
Dealt to Adot781 [5h] [4s]
alex j beeson bets 50
Adot781 raises to 100
alex j beeson calls 50
PERFECT CARD FOR 4TH. I BET, ADOT RAISES!!!! WELL HE HAS 4 GOOD CARDS FOR SURE, I CALL. I WILL HAVE TO WATCH HIS DRAWS AND IF I DRAW BETTER KEEP UP THE PRESSURE!!

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Th 4d 3h Ad] [6d]
Dealt to Adot781 [5h 4s] [Tc]
alex j beeson bets 100
Adot781 calls 100
ANOTHER PERFECT DRAW!!! I BET AND KEEP ON PRESSURING ADOT, HIS TIGHT PLAY MUST BE MAKING HIM FRUSTRATED WHEN HE CANT GET THE DRAWS HE NEEDS....

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Th 4d 3h Ad 6d] [2s]
Dealt to Adot781 [5h 4s Tc] [Ts]
alex j beeson bets 100
Adot781 calls 100
WOW!!!! I NOW HAVE A GREAT HAND!!!! I BET, ADOT CALLS. MAYBE HE THINKS I HAVE NOTHING OR AM BLUFFING BUT HE IS NOW CHASING!!! HE NEEDS SOME LIQUOR WITH THAT CHASER!!!

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Th 4d 3h Ad 6d 2s] [Ks]
alex j beeson bets 100
Adot781 folds
Uncalled bet of 100 returned to alex j beeson
alex j beeson mucks
alex j beeson wins the pot (810)
ON THE 7TH I BET QUICKLY SHOWING ADOT THAT IT DID NOT MATTER TO ME WHAT THE 7TH WAS. HE WISELY FOLDS, HE MUST HAVE BEEN ON A WHEEL DRAW BUT MISSED.
REMEMBER PLAYERS, CHASING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH!!! ALTHOUGH IN ADOT PLACE I WOULD MOST LIKELY DO THE SAME....

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alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

UGH!!!!!!!!

*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Ad Ks] [5h]
Dealt to maparound [6d]
Dealt to GotoHelenBack [Tc]
Dealt to Adot781 [Kc]
Dealt to sb007ck [Ac]
Dealt to bhavz [6c]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [Jh]
Dealt to doubleN90 [Js]
Adot781 is high with [Kc]
Adot781 completes it to 50
sb007ck calls 50
bhavz folds
biggerjohn666 folds
doubleN90 folds
alex j beeson calls 50
maparound raises to 100
GotoHelenBack folds
Adot781 calls 50
sb007ck calls 50
alex j beeson calls 50
OK NEXT HAND THE 15TH HAND, I HAVE ALMOST ALL MY STARTING CHIPS BACK AND I GET A LITTLE OVER CONFIDENT....
ONLY THE 6 AND A IS BURNED, THIS IS HOW I JUSTIFY ENTERING INTO THIS HAND... TURNS OUT TO BE A MISTAKE....

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Ad Ks 5h] [4d]
Dealt to maparound [6d] [Kd]
Dealt to Adot781 [Kc] [As]
Dealt to sb007ck [Ac] [9s]
alex j beeson bets 50
maparound folds
Adot781 folds
sb007ck calls 50
WELL CRAP. MY BOARD LOOKS STRONG BUT THIS GUY IS NOT SCARED AT ALL. MAP WISELY FOLDED AFTER HE RAISED ON 3RD!!!!. RAISING ON 3RD IS NOT SUCH A GOOD IDEA UNLESS YOU ARE SEVERLY SHORT STACKED FOR THIS VERY REASON, ONE NEVER KNOWS WHAT THE 4TH WILL BRING....
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Ad Ks 5h 4d] [5s]
Dealt to sb007ck [Ac 9s] [Jc]
sb007ck checks
alex j beeson bets 100
sb007ck calls 100
WELL DANG, I PAIRED AND WORSE EVERYONE KNOWS I PAIRED. MY HAND LOOKS REALLY REALLY BAD BUT I PERSIST, TRYING TO SHOW STRENGTH, FOOLISH ALEX.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Ad Ks 5h 4d 5s] [4s]
Dealt to sb007ck [Ac 9s Jc] [Td]
sb007ck checks
alex j beeson bets 100
sb007ck calls 100
BAD MISTAKE BY ME HERE. NOW I HAVE TWO PAIR YET I ATTEMPT TO SHOW "STRENGTH" WHEN THE OTHER PLAYER KNOWS I AM ON A DRAW, DRAWING DEAD I AM BUT I DONK MY CHIPS AWAY.....

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [Ad Ks 5h 4d 5s 4s] [8h]
sb007ck checks
alex j beeson bets 100
sb007ck calls 100
HE CHECKS!!! A GLIMMER OF HOPE. I BET THINKING I CAN GET HIM TO FOLD THE BEST HAND... BUT TO NO AVAIL.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
alex j beeson shows [Ks 8h 5h 4d 5s 4s Ad] K,8,5,4,A
sb007ck shows [Qc 7d Ac 9s Jc Td 6s] T,9,7,6,A
sb007ck wins the pot (1,180) with T,9,7,6,A
BAD NEWS, I LOST, NO SURPRISE, I HAD NO CHANCE AT ALL. GOOD NEWS, THE REST OF THE PLAYERS MAY THINK I AM A DONK. THEY MAY BE RIGHT BUT WHAT I DID WAS A PURE BLUFF ALL THE WAY. HE DID THE RIGHT THING AND CALLED EVEN THOUGH HIS HAND IS FAR FROM GOOD.

alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

This is not a brag post.
This is not a calling players donk post.

This post is for players that want to better their razz game, me included!!!

This is my thoughts on razz and how to play. I would like some discussion on the play. I won in the end and there are many examples of how to extract the most chips out of the best hands.

There are examples of how to push the best hand out.

There are examples of how to win with a less than perfect starting hand.

alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

Seat 1: alex j beeson (634)
Seat 2: maparound (393)
Seat 3: GotoHelenBack (2,938)
Seat 4: Adot781 (1,339)
Seat 5: sb007ck (1,908)
Seat 6: bhavz (583), is sitting out
Seat 7: biggerjohn666 (2,166)
Seat 8: doubleN90 (2,039)
alex j beeson antes 10
maparound antes 10
GotoHelenBack antes 10
Adot781 antes 10
sb007ck antes 10
bhavz antes 10
biggerjohn666 antes 10
doubleN90 antes 10
OK, I HAVE BEEN TAKING A BEATING, MY CHIP STACK IS IN SERIOUS TROUBLE. I HAVE HAD A HAND OR TWO THAT WENT BAD AND I HAD TO FOLD SINCE MY LAST WINNING HAND. BRING INS HAVE HURT ME TOO. I HAD MOST OF MY CHIPS BACK BUT NOW I AM BACK TO BEING BULLIED BY THE BIGGER STACKS.

*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [8c As] [5c]
Dealt to maparound [2s]
Dealt to GotoHelenBack [9s]
Dealt to Adot781 [Qd]
Dealt to sb007ck [3h]
Dealt to bhavz [Kc]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [8d]
Dealt to doubleN90 [Qh]
bhavz is high with [Kc]
bhavz brings in for 20
biggerjohn666 completes it to 60
doubleN90 folds
alex j beeson calls 60
maparound raises to 120
GotoHelenBack folds
Adot781 folds
sb007ck folds
bhavz folds
biggerjohn666 raises to 180
alex j beeson calls 120
maparound raises to 240
biggerjohn666 calls 60
alex j beeson calls 60
OK I HAVE A DECENT STARTING HAND, GOOD CARD FOR SHOWING ON THE BOARD. MAP IS SHORT STACK AND HE DECIDES IT IS TIME TO PUSH. HENCE THE RAISES, I EXPECTED IT AS IT HAD TO COME SOMETIME. I CALL AS DOES BIG JOHN, JOHN TURNS OUT TO BE A VERY TOUGH AND DANGEROUS OPPONENT.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [8c As 5c] [7h]
Dealt to maparound [2s] [5d]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [8d] [7c]
maparound bets 60
biggerjohn666 raises to 120
alex j beeson calls 120
maparound raises to 143, and is all in
biggerjohn666 calls 23
alex j beeson calls 23
MAP IS ALL IN, HE IS LOOKING GOOD, I AM LOOKING GOOD BUT I KNOW I AM BEHIND.BIG JOHN RAISING SHOULD HAVE TIPPED ME OFF BUT LOOKING AT HIS BOARD I THINK HE IS JUST PUTTING MAP ALL IN.

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [8c As 5c 7h] [5s]
Dealt to maparound [2s 5d] [9d]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [8d 7c] [Qs]
biggerjohn666 checks
alex j beeson checks
I PAIR AND JOHN BRICKS, BOTH OF US CHECK. TWO ON ONE TO ELIMINATE A PLAYER IS A GOOD THING...

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [8c As 5c 7h 5s] [8h]
Dealt to maparound [2s 5d 9d] [Td]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [8d 7c Qs] [3s]
maparound: bet
biggerjohn666 has 15 seconds left to act
biggerjohn666 checks
alex j beeson checks
WELL JOHN CHECKS AGAIN, I WONT ARGUE....

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [8c As 5c 7h 5s 8h] [Th]
biggerjohn666 checks
alex j beeson checks
WELL LITTLE CHANCE OF ME WINNING BUT IT DIDNT COST ME ANYTHING MORE.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
maparound shows [Tc 6d 2s 5d 9d Td Ac] 9,6,5,2,A
biggerjohn666 shows [5h 3d 8d 7c Qs 3s 2d] 8,7,5,3,2
alex j beeson mucks
biggerjohn666 wins the pot (1,249) with 8,7,5,3,2
maparound stands up
ONE PLAYER GONE.

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,249 | Rake 0
Seat 1: alex j beeson mucked [Th 8c 5c 7h 5s 8h As] - T,8,7,5,A
Seat 2: maparound showed [Tc 6d 2s 5d 9d Td Ac] and lost with 9,6,5,2,A
Seat 3: GotoHelenBack folded on 3rd St.
Seat 4: Adot781 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 5: sb007ck folded on 3rd St.
Seat 6: bhavz folded on 3rd St.
Seat 7: biggerjohn666 showed [5h 3d 8d 7c Qs 3s 2d] and won (1,249) with 8,7,5,3,2
Seat 8: doubleN90 folded on 3rd St.

alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

Seat 1: alex j beeson (241)<===== wtf?!?!?!?!
Seat 3: GotoHelenBack (2,928)
Seat 4: Adot781 (1,329)
Seat 5: sb007ck (1,898)
Seat 6: bhavz (553), is sitting out
Seat 7: biggerjohn666 (3,022)
Seat 8: doubleN90 (2,029)

22 hands into the game and i am just about gone, i have to get some cards soon.....

alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [5s 8s] [6c]
Dealt to GotoHelenBack [6h]
Dealt to Adot781 [8d]
Dealt to sb007ck [5h]
Dealt to bhavz [Jc]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [7s]
Dealt to doubleN90 [9h]
bhavz is high with [Jc]
bhavz brings in for 20
biggerjohn666 completes it to 60
doubleN90 folds
alex j beeson calls 60
GotoHelenBack has 15 seconds left to act
GotoHelenBack folds
Adot781 folds
sb007ck folds
bhavz folds
HAND NUBER 24 AND IT IS NOW OR NEVER. MAYBE I CAN GET LUCKY.....IT STARTS WELL ENOUGH. THE BOARD IS GOOD FOR ME, A 6 A8 AND A 5 ARE BURNED, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL KEEP ME FROM PAIRING MY 6 AND 5 AND 8. I CNT ASK FOR MUCH MORE, EXCEPT MAYBE THAT 7.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [5s 8s 6c] [Ks]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [7s] [As]
biggerjohn666 checks
alex j beeson checks
JOHN DOES NOT PUT ME ALL IN??

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [5s 8s 6c Ks] [Ad]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [7s As] [9s]
biggerjohn666 bets 120
alex j beeson raises to 131, and is all in
biggerjohn666 calls 11
alex j beeson shows [5s 8s 6c Ks Ad]
biggerjohn666 shows [5d 3s 7s As 9s]
I HAVE 86 HIGH, JOHN BETS WITH A 97 HIGH. HE HAS MOST LIKELY COMPLETED BUT I DOUBT MY NEXT HAND WOULD BE ANY BETTER IF I FOLD. I DECIDE THIS IS EITHER WHEN I FINISH OR I START MY COMEBACK.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [5s 8s 6c Ks Ad] [Kh]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [5d 3s 7s As 9s] [Ac]
PAIRS HIS A, GOOD FOR ME. I PAIR MY K. NOW I AM ON A DRAW...GULP!

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [5s 8s 6c Ks Ad Kh] [2h]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [5d 3s 7s As 9s Ac] [Qh]
alex j beeson shows [5s 8s 6c Ks Ad Kh 2h] 8,6,5,2,A
biggerjohn666 shows [5d 3s 7s As 9s Ac Qh] 9,7,5,3,A
alex j beeson wins the pot (472) with 8,6,5,2,A
THEN 2 COMES FOR ME AND A Q BRICK FOR JOHN. YES, I GOT LUCKY. YOU NEED SOME LUCK TO WIN AT RAZZ.

alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

hand 27, i started the hand with 491 chips. This is why razz is such an evil game......

*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [3s 6s] [4c]
Dealt to GotoHelenBack [Ad]
Dealt to Adot781 [5c]
Dealt to sb007ck [3d]
Dealt to bhavz [5d]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [8c]
Dealt to doubleN90 [6h]
biggerjohn666 is high with [8c]
biggerjohn666 brings in for 25
doubleN90 calls 25
alex j beeson calls 25
GotoHelenBack folds
Adot781 folds
sb007ck calls 25
bhavz folds
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [3s 6s 4c] [Td]
Dealt to sb007ck [3d] [4d]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [8c] [Jc]
Dealt to doubleN90 [6h] [3c]
sb007ck checks
biggerjohn666 checks
doubleN90 bets 80
alex j beeson calls 80
sb007ck calls 80
biggerjohn666 folds
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [3s 6s 4c Td] [Ah]
Dealt to sb007ck [3d 4d] [7h]
Dealt to doubleN90 [6h 3c] [Tc]
sb007ck checks
doubleN90 bets 160
alex j beeson calls 160
sb007ck calls 160
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [3s 6s 4c Td Ah] [Th]
Dealt to sb007ck [3d 4d 7h] [Js]
Dealt to doubleN90 [6h 3c Tc] [6c]
sb007ck checks
doubleN90 checks
alex j beeson checks
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [3s 6s 4c Td Ah Th] [7d]
sb007ck checks
doubleN90 checks
alex j beeson bets 152, and is all in
sb007ck folds
doubleN90 calls 152
*** SHOW DOWN ***
alex j beeson shows [7d 6s 4c Td Ah Th 3s] 7,6,4,3,A
doubleN90 mucks
alex j beeson wins the pot (1,229) with 7,6,4,3,A
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,229 | Rake 0
Seat 1: alex j beeson showed [7d 6s 4c Td Ah Th 3s] and won (1,229) with 7,6,4,3,A
Seat 3: GotoHelenBack folded on 3rd St.
Seat 4: Adot781 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 5: sb007ck folded on 7th St.
Seat 6: bhavz folded on 3rd St.
Seat 7: biggerjohn666 folded on 4th St.
Seat 8: doubleN90 mucked [9c 5h 6h 3c Tc 6c 4s] - 9,6,5,4,3

alex j beeson · Royal Flush Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 836

*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [As 3h] [Qd]
Dealt to GotoHelenBack [Js]
Dealt to Adot781 [3s]
Dealt to sb007ck [6c]
Dealt to bhavz [5s]
Dealt to biggerjohn666 [6h]
Dealt to doubleN90 [2s]
alex j beeson is high with [Qd]
alex j beeson brings in for 25
GotoHelenBack folds
Adot781 completes it to 80
sb007ck has 15 seconds left to act
sb007ck folds
bhavz folds
biggerjohn666 folds
doubleN90 folds
alex j beeson calls 55
ADOT AND I ARE EVEN IN CHIPS. I DONT KNOW WHY I CALLED BUT IF I HAD BRICKED ON 4TH I WOULD HAVE FOLDED. SOMETIMES YOU CANT BE TOO TIMID.

*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [As 3h Qd] [4s]
Dealt to Adot781 [3s] [7h]
Adot781 bets 80
alex j beeson calls 80
OK, RAZZ IS EVIL, I HAVE A BAD FEELING BUT I IMPROVE MY HAND. IN I STAY, IF I BRICK ON THE 5TH I WILL FOLD....

*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [As 3h Qd 4s] [7c]
Dealt to Adot781 [3s 7h] [2c]
Adot781 bets 160
alex j beeson calls 160
WELL, ISNT THIS JUST DANDY. I CAN FEEL IT IN THE PIT OF MY STOMACH, ADOT HAS BEEN TIGHT SO FAR, I MAY BE IN SOME TROUBLE, BUT MY HAND IS STILL FINE, HE AND I ARE JUST ABOUT EVEN, HE MAY BE A LITTLE AHEAD. I CALL.

*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [As 3h Qd 4s 7c] [2d]
Dealt to Adot781 [3s 7h 2c] [3d]
alex j beeson checks
Adot781 bets 160
alex j beeson raises to 320
Adot781 raises to 480
alex j beeson calls 160
A PERFECT 7!!! WIN OR LOSE I AM IN TILL THE END. CAN'T FOLD NOW. TO TOP IT OFF ADOT HAS PAIRED!! MAYBE HIS HOLE CARDS ARE NOT SO STRONG AND HE WAS TRYING TO PUSH ME OFF THE POT??

*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to alex j beeson [As 3h Qd 4s 7c 2d] [3c]
alex j beeson checks
Adot781 checks
I AM CHECKING, I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING IF I HAVE THE BEST HAND OR NOT BUT IF HE BETS... I WILL CALL.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Adot781 shows [Qc 4d 3s 7h 2c 3d Ac] 7,4,3,2,A
alex j beeson shows [3h 3c Qd 4s 7c 2d As] 7,4,3,2,A
alex j beeson ties for the pot (853) with 7,4,3,2,A
Adot781 ties for the pot (852) with 7,4,3,2,A
WE ARE BOTH WINNERS!!!

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