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drtre1987
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: 7th Street Low Stakes Question Reply with quote

Full Tilt Poker Game #4306614762: Table Arroyo Grande - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.05 - Limit Stud Hi - 18:36:13 ET - 2007/11/26
Seat 1: calguy ($4.85)
Seat 2: Paprika ($12.20)
Seat 3: drtre1987 ($8.60)
Seat 4: biker92 ($2.75)
Seat 5: JoeHallenbeck34 ($5.20)
Seat 8: MikesMets ($6.35)
calguy antes $0.05
MikesMets antes $0.05
JoeHallenbeck34 antes $0.05
drtre1987 antes $0.05
biker92 antes $0.05
Paprika antes $0.05
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to calguy [Js]
Dealt to Paprika [Ks]
Dealt to drtre1987 [Qc 6c] [Ac]
Dealt to biker92 [4s]
Dealt to JoeHallenbeck34 [Qs]
Dealt to MikesMets [3s]
MikesMets is low with [3s]
MikesMets brings in for $0.10
calguy folds
Paprika completes it to $0.25
drtre1987 calls $0.25
biker92 folds
JoeHallenbeck34 folds
MikesMets folds
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to Paprika [Ks] [As]
Dealt to drtre1987 [Qc 6c Ac] [9s]
Paprika bets $0.25
drtre1987 calls $0.25
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to Paprika [Ks As] [3c]
Dealt to drtre1987 [Qc 6c Ac 9s] [Jc]
Paprika bets $0.50
drtre1987 calls $0.50
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to Paprika [Ks As 3c] [Kc]
Dealt to drtre1987 [Qc 6c Ac 9s Jc] [9c]
Paprika bets $0.50
drtre1987 raises to $1
Paprika calls $0.50
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to drtre1987 [Qc 6c Ac 9s Jc 9c] [6h]
Paprika bets $0.50
drtre1987 ????

Against low stakes players, do you raise here? Obviously against good players, you would not raise fearing a full house and assume that they would not bet into you w/ trips. But against bad players, do you raise for value on the end here?
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sloshedzeus
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if he was the kind to bet into you with trips on seventh, he would also have raised you on sixth. He might have had AAKK after catching the K on sixth, but I think that was his third K and filled up on seventh.
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Strasse
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

id raise and not care if it was the wrong play because I only lost $1.

Seriously though, if you think he is that bad, raise.
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theman728
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st off...dunno why your in the hand..2nd, why would you ever consider raising a weak two pair?? when hes been betting into the entire time, and he has KK showing..100% more likely to fold here than raise, dont know anyone bad enough to raise.
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drtre1987
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theman728 wrote:
1st off...dunno why your in the hand..2nd, why would you ever consider raising a weak two pair?? when hes been betting into the entire time, and he has KK showing..100% more likely to fold here than raise, dont know anyone bad enough to raise.


on third street i have a three flush and an overcard. my clubs and aces are all live. and, if instead of having split kings, he might have JJ or TT. So then my queen would be another overcard.
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jbrennen
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theman728 wrote:
2nd, why would you ever consider raising a weak two pair?? when hes been betting into the entire time, and he has KK showing..100% more likely to fold here than raise, dont know anyone bad enough to raise.


Look at his hand again, he's not raising based on his 9-9-6-6...

Consider this scenario... He checks to you on 7th street, and he is forced to call your bet (he can't fold, he can't raise). Sounds like a pretty sweet deal, doesn't it? You extract a bet from hands that can't beat you, and you don't have to worry about getting check-raised by a better hand.

Well, calling his bet here gives you the same outcome. Take the sweet deal.
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sloshedzeus
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theman728 wrote:
1st off...dunno why your in the hand..2nd, why would you ever consider raising a weak two pair?? when hes been betting into the entire time, and he has KK showing..100% more likely to fold here than raise, dont know anyone bad enough to raise.


He is not considering raising a weak two pair, I think he is considering raising his flush.

I still think that he filled up on seventh and would only call.
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doorbread
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if he had a boat on 6th, he wouldn't have done that little stop and go, but it's possible that's he's filled up on 7th. I just call here and dread the fact that he shows you trips.
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