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sttatt
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Location: philly

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:53 am    Post subject: was there anything i could do to protect myself against this idiot Reply with quote

Full Tilt Poker Game #3980339927: Table Danville - $0.50/$1 Ante $0.10 - Limit Razz - 3:43:21 ET - 2007/10/27
Seat 1: hero ($4.70)
Seat 2: ALEUTIAN ($16.90)
Seat 3: insane31 ($31.25)
Seat 4: idiot ($9.90)
Seat 5: M5thpool ($15.60)
Seat 6: MrCider ($10)
Seat 7: eagles140 ($15.35)
Seat 8: scorpioboy_ ($15.95), is sitting out
M5thpool antes $0.10
idiot antes $0.10
ALEUTIAN antes $0.10
insane31 antes $0.10
eagles140 antes $0.10
hero antes $0.10
MrCider antes $0.10
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to hero [8d 9s] [5h]
Dealt to ALEUTIAN [2h]
Dealt to insane31 [Jh]
Dealt to clbishop1 [Ks]
Dealt to M5thpool [Kc]
Dealt to MrCider [7s]
Dealt to eagles140 [Th]
idiot is high with [Ks]
idiot brings in for $0.15
M5thpool folds
MrCider folds
eagles140 folds
hero calls $0.15
ALEUTIAN folds
insane31 folds
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to hero [8d 9s 5h] [4s]
Dealt to idiot [Ks] [6s]
hero bets $0.50
idiot calls $0.50
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to hero [8d 9s 5h 4s] [Jc]
Dealt to idiot [Ks 6s] [Qh]
hero bets $1
idiot calls $1
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to hero [8d 9s 5h 4s Jc] [Ac]
Dealt to idiot [Ks 6s Qh] [8h]
hero bets $1
idiot calls $1
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to hero [8d 9s 5h 4s Jc Ac] [5d]
hero bets $1
idiot calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hero shows [9s 8d 5h 4s Jc Ac 5d] 9,8,5,4,A
idiot shows [7d 3c Ks 6s Qh 8h As] 8,7,6,3,A
idiot wins the pot ($7.60) with 8,7,6,3,A
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8 | Rake $0.40
Seat 1: hero showed [9s 8d 5h 4s Jc Ac 5d] and lost with 9,8,5,4,A
Seat 2: ALEUTIAN folded on 3rd St.
Seat 3: insane31 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 4: idiot showed [7d 3c Ks 6s Qh 8h As] and won ($7.60) with 8,7,6,3,A
Seat 5: M5thpool folded on 3rd St.
Seat 6: MrCider folded on 3rd St.
Seat 7: eagles140 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 8: scorpioboy_ is sitting out



looking back the only thing i think that i might have changed was either check calling on 7th or not playin at all.....and i will admit that im still semi new at razz.....but this just seems that i got sucked out on and im wondering if theres anything i coulda done to protect myself
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kcstoltz
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Joined: 27 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im no pro myself and no offence but 985 is not good staying cards in razz
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sttatt
Pair


Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Posts: 21
Location: philly

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

know but heres my train of thought...

i figured if i limped in and and the '2' to my left folded i showed more than enuf strength to take the pot away from the shown 'j' and 'k'....that much showed to be true for the jack but the guy just kept callin....

i dont know if i was in the right to do that....maybe i shoulda folded...but i still think it wasnt a bad play on my part...

maybe im wrong
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cubbies760
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Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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Location: Suburban Chicago

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Complete on 3rd.
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PokerAA
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Joined: 24 Nov 2006
Posts: 1610

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cubbies760 wrote:
Complete on 3rd.
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KronX
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Joined: 10 Jan 2007
Posts: 3126
Location: The City by the City by the Bay

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PokerAA wrote:
cubbies760 wrote:
Complete on 3rd.
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DownriverRick
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Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Posts: 206
Location: Downriver, of course

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kcstoltz wrote:
im no pro myself and no offence but 985 is not good staying cards in razz


Normally, you're right. But look at the other player's door cards. Six of the eight other up cards are higher than his highest down card, and he's showing a 5. It's worth a look.

KronX wrote:
PokerAA wrote:
cubbies760 wrote:
Complete on 3rd.


What they said...
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bisepost
High Card


Joined: 26 Sep 2007
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree with the complete on third, but more than that...

if he calls, i'd try to bet once more and if he calls, check/fold... he's going to have 2 hole cards 5 or less... (in this case he had A3) your rough 9 is going to lose most of the time.
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sgspecial
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Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Posts: 135

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bisepost wrote:
i agree with the complete on third, but more than that...

if he calls, i'd try to bet once more and if he calls, check/fold... he's going to have 2 hole cards 5 or less... (in this case he had A3) your rough 9 is going to lose most of the time.

Do you mean hero should check/fold 5th st? When the villain hit a Q? When the hero is a 3:1 favorite to win the hand? Or maybe you meant on 6th street when the hero is a mere 2.5:1 to win the hand? That kind of "discipline" is the kind that will get you spanked with a paddle.
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rich_lady
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Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 50

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Razz always seemed like a bet your butt off and hope game lol. Im new at the game but from what I can see there is no skill involved. I have won some and lost some. I won a $4800.00 hand and I had 1,2,3,4 showing. Two other players were betting and raising each other in a betting frinzy. I just sat there and called all of there bets and raises and smiled. I had an A in the pocket. When I got the pot one of them got very abusive to me in the chat. I told him my hand was right there for all to see and he had continued to raise. He said he didn't even notice another player was in the hand with them? I really got a laugh out of all this.
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sgspecial
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rich_lady wrote:
Razz always seemed like a bet your butt off and hope game lol. Im new at the game but from what I can see there is no skill involved. I have won some and lost some. I won a $4800.00 hand and I had 1,2,3,4 showing. Two other players were betting and raising each other in a betting frinzy. I just sat there and called all of there bets and raises and smiled. I had an A in the pocket. When I got the pot one of them got very abusive to me in the chat. I told him my hand was right there for all to see and he had continued to raise. He said he didn't even notice another player was in the hand with them? I really got a laugh out of all this.

Wow, where did you win this $4800 hand? If it was online I'd love to see the hand history of it. If not, how can I get invited to this game? I have way more "luck" at this game than most.
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looseandontilt
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Joined: 25 Nov 2007
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Location: Cashiers Window

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kcstoltz wrote:
im no pro myself and no offence but 985 is not good staying cards in razz


Well Said
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doorbread
Two Pair


Joined: 28 Apr 2007
Posts: 61

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You bet 7th with a 9. He's drawing to an 8. He's only calling with a hand that has you beat. You should've showed 7th down.
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