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deathtopaul · Four of a Kind Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 334

How do you guys play AA (or even KK) depending on position and your other 2 cards? A lot of people say you always raise AA, but I'm not sure if that should apply if you are in early position with AAragrag. I'll pretty much always raise any AA hand when opening from LP regardless of my other cards, but in MP and EP, i'll just limp unless the rest of the hand is decent. I figure you're just set mining if the other 2 cards are crap, so seeing a cheap flop is good.

This also brings up another question. How important is it to raise preflop? Obviously there are some hands that I always raise, but your average playable hand is never a big favorite over another playable hand. Do you just mix in raises with limping to stay unpredictable?

I know these are probably pretty stupid questions, but I'm used to NLHE so these things confuse me a lot. Confused

deathtopaul · Four of a Kind Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 334

Bump.

Advice would be appreciated. Preflop play is my biggest problem.

bigwheell · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject:

I pretty much set mine with uncoordinated AA hands.

If I can get most/all of my chips in preflop with AA hands, I will.

I preflop raise about half of all wrap hands, coordinated AA/KK hands. I limp call the rest of the time...

I limp/reraise preflop infrequently. I do it on the flop and turn more often.

Gives you a bit of an idea how I play...

I think you really have to not get into a set pattern of doing anything in PLO, or good players pick up on it quickly and exploit you.

A couple of days ago, I had a guy at my table make a full pot check raise bluff at me when I got the Nut Flush on the river, because he had a note on me that I don't bet draws. I was betting my A high flush draw this time and I won a 170 pot because of varying my play.

We both multi table and I play againts him in the afternoons sometimes... He said in the chat after the hand that "I guess I better change my notes on you lol"

Uncle_Buz · Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject:

If I have a fist full of big cards I generally raise. I also raise when I have a suited Ace, but not enough to drive out players, just to sweeten the pot.

Why? I hate to make the nuts and just win the blinds.

I think raising with most AAxx hands is a must so that you can get heads up. I think you want the pot as big as possible and the opponents as few as possible. Examples:

A Diamond

A

J

4

is a 2:1 favorite against K Diamond

Q

9

. You want to see this as much and as often as you can.

Add another opponent with A Club

J

T

9

and the rockets are a coin flip. (52% actually - still not an ideal situation but pretty nice to have a coin flip and get paid 2 to 1 on your bet.)

Add a third opponent into the mix with something like 3 Heart

4

5

6

and your Aces have only a 16% chance of winning the hand! You most likely will not be able to win unless you improve, avoid all those straight and flush draws or make a monster. Now you are a 5 to 1 dog and only getting paid 3 to 1. Loserville!

Of course, most of the time you still have to play the hand. Get as much value as you can when ahead and cut your losses when behind. Bluff if you sense that your opponent will fold. After all, once you do the numbers, you still have to play poker.

Bisull · Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: ...

i think its very important to raise when u have aces, like buz said, u dont wanna play it in a multiway pot, ur gonna have to flop a set to be able to play...

i raise with aces almost every time, unless its AA73 rainbow... but its also important to mix it up and raise str8/flush drawing hands

Deano7889 · High Card Joined: 01 Nov 2007 Posts: 11

I would have to say that I would not raise with an ace ace crap crap hand. It leaves too many possibilities for the other players. Now, if you have 2 aces with both of them suited, that would be a great time to raise. Another way better hand to raise with would be a a k q because it leaves you with the possibility of 2 high pair of a straight. I would probably throw the aces with crap if it gets raised unless you are playing with a bunch of amatures, which you should be able to figure out after the first few hands that are played to the showdown.

pghbandit · Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 12:35 am Post subject:

To me I will limp with AA because it seems if you hit a big flop you will make a ton. If you raise and try to drive players out people put you on a big pair. I know I will take a shot to see an expesive flop to take your stack. I see a lot of players (at low limits) overplay AA. It is a very weak hand when 3 to a str8 or 3 to a flush are flopped. The first thing I learned when playing Omaha is the weakness of a big pocket pair.

ClayKing · Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: Omaha and AA's

I thhink that you are thinking on the right path. Cause if you dont have anything to back them up, (pair, double suited ect.) there in most cases I would just limp call. Because all you have is a pair, and how many times do you see one pair win in omaha. Not very often. That is just my opinion there are many ways you can play accourding to players table image ect.

doorbread · Two Pair Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 61

It really depends on how deep your stacks are. If your stacks are really deep, I don't reraise with AA unless I'm willing to reraise with hands like qj109 because your opponents will know what you have and then play to it accordingly. If your stacks aren't deep, I would try to limp re-pop if I could get most of my chips in preflop with the best hand, then shove the remainder in on the flop.

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