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cubbies760
Next Year Is Here
Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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Location: Suburban Chicago
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 Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:47 am Post subject: A general question |
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This other thread here got me thinking. I had many, many times in the past week that I flopped a set while HU.
I bet the flop (about 2/3 pot) and got called.
I bet the turn (about 2/3 pot) after not improving on my set and got called.
Then the river hits what could be the money card for any draw. It has been a card that completes most draw, straight draw and flush draw.
What do I do now after betting my set up until this point? Do I c/f, or make some minimal bet? It is very frustrating to see these draw possibly/probably hit when my flopped set doesn't improve. |
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drtre1987
Message Board Junkie
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| most likely check fold. it doesnt matter what happened in the past with your betting. if you feel that a card completes their draw, it doesnt matter how much money you already put in, then it is right to fold. like say the board is Th9h5s 2c Kh. That completes a QJ draw as well as a flush draw. There are little hands you can beat. Unless your opponent is a habitual bluffer, you cannot possibly call any large river bet. Just be happy that he is calling with a draw all the way. |
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deathtopaul
Four of a Kind
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
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I guess if you're giving them a bad price along the way, you'll be profitting from them when you improve to a boat about 1/3 of the time. Then again, I'm the one who has problems playing a made boat. 
I sure use a lot of emoticons. |
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slashd0t
High Card
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| In Omaha, you want to make those players pay for their draws. When you flop a set, you really want the board to pair or else your hand is almost useless on the river. Especially if that scare card comes that completes a flush or a straight draw. Easy to dump on the river.. Save your $ for a different hand where the draws are missed! |
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Dashir
Pair
Joined: 24 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| In Omaha, you want to make those players pay for their draws. When you flop a set, you really want the board to pair or else your hand is almost useless on the river. |
That can be impossible in PotLimit. The worst odds you can offer is two to one. Now if all he has is open ended straight draw, you can drive him out. But if he has any kind of wrap straight, that's 13 or more outs. Toss in a flush draw and he has the edge with two cards left.
Two to one is also the odds of you hitting your house with two cards left. So really hard to fold those. But keep in mind, if the board pairs a higher card then your set, someone else might have hit a bigger boat. So much depends on the texture of the flop. |
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pghbandit
Royal Flush
Joined: 18 Jun 2006
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Location: Ummm Pittsburgh?
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| i agree you need to price out you opponents on a strong flop, but in my mind you have to beware of what I deem "the cross over players." Hold 'em players that will just try to bully in Omaha. They will raise a lot, bet a lot, and chase imaginary draws to get you to fold on the river. Just be conscious of who the "chaser" is, and be willing on occassion to call him down. |
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