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renegades8
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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:31 am Post subject: HORSE SNG Razz Hand |
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PokerStars Game #11751641226: Tournament #59627885 HORSE (Razz Limit) - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/08/29 - 03:22:49 (ET)
Table '59627885 1' 8-max
Seat 1: spidie8 (854 in chips)
Seat 2: renegades8 (4679 in chips)
Seat 3: JJairSilva (3627 in chips)
Seat 4: C.C. Rider 5 (2455 in chips)
Seat 8: lilwikkid1 (385 in chips)
lilwikkid1: posts the ante 40
spidie8: posts the ante 40
renegades8: posts the ante 40
JJairSilva: posts the ante 40
C.C. Rider 5: posts the ante 40
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to spidie8 [Kd]
Dealt to renegades8 [5c 8d 3h]
Dealt to JJairSilva [Ah]
Dealt to C.C. Rider 5 [3d]
Dealt to lilwikkid1 [Kc]
spidie8: brings in for 60
renegades8: raises 140 to 200
JJairSilva: folds
C.C. Rider 5: calls 200
lilwikkid1: folds
spidie8: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to renegades8 [5c 8d 3h] [8c]
Dealt to C.C. Rider 5 [3d] [6c]
C.C. Rider 5: checks
renegades8: checks
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to renegades8 [5c 8d 3h 8c] [7h]
Dealt to C.C. Rider 5 [3d 6c] [9h]
renegades8: checks
C.C. Rider 5: bets 400
renegades8: calls 400
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to renegades8 [5c 8d 3h 8c 7h] [Ac]
Dealt to C.C. Rider 5 [3d 6c 9h] [3s]
renegades8: checks
C.C. Rider 5: checks
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to renegades8 [5c 8d 3h 8c 7h Ac] [9d]
renegades8: bets 400
C.C. Rider 5: calls 400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
renegades8: shows [5c 8d 3h 8c 7h Ac 9d] (Lo: 8,7,5,3,A)
C.C. Rider 5: mucks hand
renegades8 collected 2260 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2260 | Rake 0
Seat 1: spidie8 folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 2: renegades8 showed [5c 8d 3h 8c 7h Ac 9d] and won (2260) with Lo: 8,7,5,3,A
Seat 3: JJairSilva folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 4: C.C. Rider 5 mucked [As 2d 3d 6c 9h 3s 2c]
Seat 8: lilwikkid1 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet) |
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jbrennen
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Seems standard, except that you missed a value bet on 6th street. With one card to come, you're favored over Villain no matter what he has in the hole.
There's a case to be made for check/calling the river, but given Villain's passive play on 3rd and 4th, I think that betting the river is fine, you're rarely going to get punished here for betting out, and you'll probably get paid off by a 9 low a good bit of the time.
What would you have done on the river if Villain had raised you? |
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renegades8
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| jbrennen wrote: |
Seems standard, except that you missed a value bet on 6th street. With one card to come, you're favored over Villain no matter what he has in the hole.
There's a case to be made for check/calling the river, but given Villain's passive play on 3rd and 4th, I think that betting the river is fine, you're rarely going to get punished here for betting out, and you'll probably get paid off by a 9 low a good bit of the time.
What would you have done on the river if Villain had raised you? |
I'd probably have to call. The way he played that hand so passively, it seemed to me that he either started with a pair, or had a brick in the hole. Who knows, he could have started with 223. I couldn't see him just calling with A23 and checking with A236. Also, the pot was so big I think I have to call for one extra bet. |
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sgspecial
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| jbrennen wrote: |
| Seems standard, except that you missed a value bet on 6th street. With one card to come, you're favored over Villain no matter what he has in the hole. |
It's true hero is guaranteed to be ahead, but since villain's hand was so weak (I guarantee he didn't start A23), hero actually squeezed one more bet out of him by checking 6th when villain was drawing dead (and likely to fold) and betting the river instead when it was possible villain would make a 9 low and pay him off. Not sure if that's what hero's strategy was, but worth considering the next time if you think the villain is most likely drawing dead. |
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renegades8
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| sgspecial wrote: |
| jbrennen wrote: |
| Seems standard, except that you missed a value bet on 6th street. With one card to come, you're favored over Villain no matter what he has in the hole. |
It's true hero is guaranteed to be ahead, but since villain's hand was so weak (I guarantee he didn't start A23), hero actually squeezed one more bet out of him by checking 6th when villain was drawing dead (and likely to fold) and betting the river instead when it was possible villain would make a 9 low and pay him off. Not sure if that's what hero's strategy was, but worth considering the next time if you think the villain is most likely drawing dead. |
Yea that's basically what I was trying to do. I also am very doubtful he started with A23 and just smooth called, along with checking with A236... pretty sure he started with 223. |
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aMurderofCrows
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| Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: HORSE SNG Razz Hand |
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Bet 4th
Raise 5th |
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renegades8
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:31 am Post subject: Re: HORSE SNG Razz Hand |
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| aMurderofCrows wrote: |
Bet 4th
Raise 5th |
What's your reasoning? |
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