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craigo6x

This is a $2 buy-in?

Full Tilt Poker Game #3345497731: $2 + $0.25 Sit & Go (25582762), Table 1 - 20/40 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 22:44:29 ET - 2007/08/23
Seat 1: queue degat (1,934)
Seat 2: wyleecoyote7 (3,125)
Seat 3: jadedkoehn (1,218)
Seat 6: Big_Jed (1,848)
Seat 7: Sever7 (2,322)
Seat 8: kellieintx (1,263)
Seat 9: craigo6x (1,790)
craigo6x posts the small blind of 20
queue degat posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to craigo6x [Ah Ac Ts 5s]
Big_Jed has been disconnected
Big_Jed has reconnected
wyleecoyote7 folds
jadedkoehn calls 40
Big_Jed has been disconnected
Big_Jed has reconnected
Big_Jed has 15 seconds left to act
Big_Jed has been disconnected
Big_Jed has reconnected
Big_Jed has 15 seconds left to act
Big_Jed calls 40
Sever7 folds
kellieintx calls 40
craigo6x calls 20
queue degat has 15 seconds left to act
Big_Jed has been disconnected
Big_Jed has reconnected
queue degat checks
*** FLOP *** [6s Ad 2s]
craigo6x checks
queue degat checks
jadedkoehn checks
Big_Jed has 15 seconds left to act
Big_Jed checks
kellieintx checks
*** TURN *** [6s Ad 2s] [2c]
craigo6x checks
queue degat checks
jadedkoehn checks
Big_Jed has 15 seconds left to act
Big_Jed checks
kellieintx checks
*** RIVER *** [6s Ad 2s 2c] [Jc]
craigo6x bets 100
queue degat has 15 seconds left to act
queue degat calls 100
jadedkoehn calls 100
Big_Jed folds
kellieintx folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
craigo6x shows [Ah Ac Ts 5s] a full house, Aces full of Twos
queue degat mucks
jadedkoehn mucks
craigo6x wins the pot (500) with a full house, Aces full of Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 500 | Rake 0
Board: [6s Ad 2s 2c Jc]
Seat 1: queue degat (big blind) mucked [6d 6c 4s Qh] - a full house, Sixes full of Twos
Seat 2: wyleecoyote7 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: jadedkoehn mucked [Th Qc 2d 8d] - three of a kind, Twos
Seat 6: Big_Jed folded on the River
Seat 7: Sever7 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: kellieintx (button) folded on the River
Seat 9: craigo6x (small blind) showed [Ah Ac Ts 5s] and won (500) with a full house, Aces full of Twos

drtre1987 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2018

You made many mistakes on this hand. You should have raised preflop. You should have bet the flop. You should have bet the turn.

Preflop, why arent you raising with your aces? I dont understand that. It is a favorite and you are likely to get at least one caller and you might be able to thin down the field.

On the flop, there are some draws out there, including a flush draw. You have to bet out there. Plus if anyone has the As, you will get a lot of action out of him. He will lower your hand value because he knows that you cant be drawing to the nut flush. So if a spade comes on the river, he cant put you on a flush draw.

On the turn you still did not bet. You now could commit someone with a lower full house to the hand. You still bet now to let someone draw to a flush since someone will be drawing to a beatable hand. You need to get chips in the pot sometime in the hand. You cant just check this down the whole way. You got the least amount of value out of the hand as possible.

yahtzee666 · Pair Joined: 15 May 2007 Posts: 40

they had sht and had no incentive to raise because u didn;t build the pot

Zophar · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:05 am Post subject:

I'm fine with the blind completion here. Yes you have AA, but it's still not a monster. Really a set mining hand. A raise here leaves you OOP the entire hand in a big pot. However, you have to make sure to get max value from it when you do hit a good flop. In a cash game I might do it, even though it advertises AA, with this many players involved, but in the early stages of a tourney, I don't think it's the best play.

As played, you really have to lead at this flop. You have the best hand currently and 2 blockers/5th best flush draw(best looked at as blockers). Just because you look down and see a big hand, no one will put you on top set. Pot it, you'll get atleast 1 caller. In this case, you definitely would've picked up the mid set, possibly getting him all in here.

Turn-Again, you have to bet here. A 2/3 to 3/4 pot bet here should get a little action. It will often represent a bare 2. (Had you lead out on the flop, you could've possibly chk/rsd the turn.)

River-I think you could've gained a little more value. I'd have gone closer to the pot size. It's not large, so many will call with a wider range.

In a 3+ way pot in omaha, almost always assume someone else has hit enough of the flop to want to continue. You don't want to give them an opportunity to make a hand before betting.

mathman1115 · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:08 am Post subject:

In tournament play, you should definitely be raising with the Aces, although i understand you not raising. I don't play Omaha tournies, but i do play cash games once in a while. I very rarely raise with Aces unless they are double suited, single suited, or have high cards to go with them. At the micros, 5 people end up calling anyway and you end up playing for set value.

But anyway, that aside, you should definitely bet the flop. Any decent spade draw will call you, and if someone happens to have 66, 22, A6, or even A2, you will get action.

If you bet the flop, get called by someone, and then the board pairs, now i like to look weak. Any 2 might give you all of their chips, and if he has A2 or A6 you are very likely to get them.

Your goal is not induce bluffs with a hand like this, your goal is to put your chips in and hope someone comes along for the ride, at least on the flop. Once you fill up, then you can get fancy if you think it might be profitable.

craigo6x · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:17 am Post subject:

Z is 100% right preflop. I'm not raising AA from the sb with 3 limpers in front. I've already seen 2 players limp call. Unless I hit my ace, I have a pair of aces oop in Omaha. I was hoping to induce a bet on the flop so I can raise. Once I boated on the turn, I knew I had the 2nd nut so I figured I was good.

I know I could have gotten more value, because I know the 2 had to hit someone, but the BB flopped a set of 6s and turned 6s full. Had I known he was that strong, I would have bet more, but he played the hand as well as I've seen anyone play a hand.

mathman1115 · Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:52 am Post subject:

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