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Card Guesser High Card
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Ha ha haaaaaaaaaaa Jumpy..... I wish I meet you at the table - angry morons like you loose quite fast!
Watch your language player - I didn't insult you (so far) and in fact I didn't name any names to any of the high tempered penguins who found the best way to respond is to start swearing.
I'll meet you all at the tables, you rednecks! |
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cds tripaces Royal Flush
Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 942 Location: Maryland
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| Any Mod, i think this thread is way out of line even in its original intent....i think this thread should be locked cuz it will only lead to trouble |
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1JUMPY1 Royal Flush
Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 881 Location: Palos Hills Il.
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:13 am Post subject: |
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Card Guesser - look up the word "INFER" in the distionary . It is what you did in you "QUESTION" . Yes you did name names, CHRIS FERGUSON'S , in acompletely unfounded and absolutly moronic string of idiocy . I will always stand up for what's right , and in my opinion Chris may be one of the most solid , upstanding players in the limelight . So I am pissed and i think a lot of other people are to . like i said before . I
pity people who dont have the ability to see their own faults . Lastly , i don't "TILT" much anymore , the good people in this forum have taught me that when im losing ..it's probably my own play....that FullTilt really isn't rigged ...and idiot's happen . Please come and play with me ,the satisfaction of taking some chips from you would be so the sweetist thing . |
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I Eat Turds High Card
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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first off, chris already has a million or two.
secondly, why would anyone screw up their reputation to scare up
10k to donate 2 charity like he did?
obviously, the screen name "cardguesser" fits you perfectly. |
It has nothing to do with the $10,000 or the millions Chris has. Anyone who thinks that Chris is doing this for the charity, or to prove something to himself, or as a challenge are kidding yourselves.
The truth is that this whole thing is a marketing gimmick. They're doing it to show people that you can turn nothing into $10K in hopes of luring new players to FT.
They're not doing it to make money for a charity (why not just donate $10,000 instead of making the charity wait a year and a half for the money) and Chris is obviously not doing it for the money. They're doing it to tell people "Come to FT poker where you can turn nothing into $10,000. You've got nothing to lose!"
So Chris DOES have a motive for cheating. That having been said, I really don't think that he did. I'm just saying there is a very good reason to believe that he/FT would want to cheat. |
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dcdoorknob Royal Flush
Joined: 11 May 2007 Posts: 802 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| You know, all this Chris probably cheated stuff has a ton of merit. I mean, its not like he has, say 5 WSOP bracelets in the past decade, including a Main event win, or has anywhere close to 50 ITM finishes in the WSOP. Clearly this guy is a hack and needs to cheat to win at poker, there simply is no other explanation. |
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dollarmtn Royal Flush
Joined: 03 Jan 2006 Posts: 784 Location: Somewhere in the desert
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| dcdoorknob wrote: |
| You know, all this Chris probably cheated stuff has a ton of merit. I mean, its not like he has, say 5 WSOP bracelets in the past decade, including a Main event win, or has anywhere close to 50 ITM finishes in the WSOP. Clearly this guy is a hack and needs to cheat to win at poker, there simply is no other explanation. |
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firehawk01 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 1018 Location: Whitehall, Pa.
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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I have a write in vote to cast:
NO he doesnt cheat, but yes U are a Muppet |
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soulflay High Card
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Dont flame the guy for bringing up a very reasonable question.
Did he personally cheat? - No way, definitely not.
Did he have help?.... I think that's the question.
This is a multi-billion dollar industry. If accomplishing his Poker Challenge and going from $0-$10,000 had a major advertising impact (ie. put millions of dollars in some people's hands), isn't it possible that the cards were tipped in his favor on some major tourneys?
This would most probably happen without his knowledge or direct involvement, but someone else? Maybe. People would do a lot of crazy (immoral) things for an easy million dollars.
I hope that he earned it legit. And I'm happy for him, either way. |
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1JUMPY1 Royal Flush
Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 881 Location: Palos Hills Il.
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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firehawk said ",BUT YOU ARE A MUPPET" rotf lol
soulflay said "Dont flame the guy for bringing up a very reasonable question." Please explain exactly how you decide such a statment is reasonable , please. You see that is the first asinine thing card guesser said , then went on to bring op even more silly junk.
I Eat Turds(just eewwww) That FACT is that Chris is a player who would do something like this for fun . Chris also is a player who will tell you that you over bet a pot,even if the dealer missed it . I am not sure i would , would you ? Thats the thing you can't wrap your mind around, that his INTEGRITY was attacked. First by card guesser then by yourself. Chris is one of the winningest palyers in the world, to say he would need help is sickening. I believe a playere like Chris would KNOW if he was being "HELPED" and would put a stop to it. He just played the same poker that has put him in over 50 final tables. FIFTY FINAL TABLES
, get it. IT IS NOT REASONABLE TO ASK THAT QUESTION, and that was my point
Card Gusser i an still waiting for you to come and take my chips . plaese come and play me we can go heads up fir free chips, the best 2 out of three for 100,000 play chips what do you say, or was yooyr theat to beat me just a as empty as your garbage about Chris ?? |
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Card Guesser High Card
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Hey Jumpy, I don't play with free money - it's a waste of time, I only play with real money. And I don't like FullTilt, I play on Pokerstars.com, they have the largest tournaments in the world, but also the toughest players. You're welcome to come and play at the tables I play.
I said it before - this so called challenge was done for marketing purposes and for money. When I said marketing and advertising I was, of course, referring to FullTilt - they are trying to lure new players (as someone else said) - Ferguson doesn't really need anymore advertising. And he's done it for the money yes - you're naive if you don't get the fact that I wasn't referring to the 10k, but to whatever else he got paid to do that by FullTilt (you think he's spent the last year struggling at the $10 or $100 level for free and for fun?...) And also if he reaches 1 million in another year or two - as most of the people are asking him to do through that poll - that would be a nice extra income, wouldn't it? And also think how many people started playing on this site hoping to do the same thingy Ferguson did and how much money FullTilt made because of that.
Good point when someone said he might not even know that he gets the best hands from FullTilt. Don't forger though that "he put together the team of programmers who designed the software" - that's what they say on this site about him...
I'm wondering if you're in any way involved in this whole story, cause you're so... "jumpy" about it
Dude - relax breath deep through your nose a few times and just enjoy life. |
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kyblue007 Royal Flush
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 803
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| Card Guesser is like so many others in this and all forums, he will put forward his paranoid ideas to justify his own existence knowing that if he were to say somethings like this to the individuals face he would be ****-slapped until he cried. |
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1JUMPY1 Royal Flush
Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 881 Location: Palos Hills Il.
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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Card Guesser says>>> Hey Jumpy, I don't play with free money - it's a waste of time
Card Guesser , you said you would take my chips , for now those chips are play...that doesn't mean I suck at poker it simply means i haven't deposited yet. Which BTW is a direct result of Ferguson's BR management ideas, as well as from the input I get here .See bud I am not going run thru of a bunch deposits when I start to play cash games . Playing the play chip tables has taught me everything I should never do in a cash game and quiet a bit that I will hold on to after I make the switch to cash. Which will be soon I think . WE WILL play some hands sometime....just not yet .That said a super star like you can build a play chip bank of 300k in an hour or two right? Just think of the bragging you could do , any way I am done with that.
I am positive he earned money playing , as a F T pro he gets his rake back and probably other incentives as well. Can you explain why he shouldn't? SEE YOU PEOPLE NEVER DO THAT !!!! You never back up what you say . I am STILL waiting for SOULFLAY to give me just one reason why it is reasonable to make such a statement about one of... if not THE MOST WINNING PLAYER IN THE WORLD .
YOU SAY>>> Good point when someone said he might not even know that he gets the best hands from FullTilt.
AGAIN PLEASE EXPLAIN EXACTLY HOW YOU "HELP" A PLAYER OF HIS CALIBER Trust me I wont hold my breath . All Chris has to do is play his game .
YOU SAY>>>I'm wondering if you're in any way involved in this whole story, cause you're so... "jumpy" about it
My involvement is this , "ALL IT TAKES FOR EVIL TO WIN IS FOR GOOD MEN TO SIT IDLE ", thats it. Pretty silly huh?? But that is "how I roll" ,I will always stand up for what is right . As i said before you don't have the ability to look with in and see your mistakes.
DUDE I AM DONE WASTING SPACE IN THE FORUM WITH THIS IF YOU HAVE ANY THING ELSE TO SAY TO ME SEND IT PRIVATE MESSAGE!!!
Lastly....please let me know the name you play under on pokerstars I play there now and will make a deposit there when I deposit here .bye |
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Card Guesser High Card
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 5
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Jumpy - I only read the first paragraph of your previous message and I got bored and stopped reading the rest - I don't know what you said, I don't have time to waste, but I just wanted to say to you one last thing: there's NO WAY to compare play money and real money poker. When and if you'll ever start playing real poker you'll understand... |
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FAST EDDIE 88 Full House
Joined: 27 Oct 2006 Posts: 158 Location: Chicago area
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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jumpy sure does make an awful lot of accusations for someone that says you should have proof before making accusations
you want other people to have proof before saying things or implying things about others
Where is your proof that card guesser is the bad person you say he is?
he asked a legitimate question. There are alot of scumbags out there. and I doubt Chris is one of them, but we all have our price.
you are basically just a hipocrit
card guesser didnt say ferguson was a cheat
he put up a poll for you to vote on
and the people of this forum have spoken.
Chris is most likley not a cheat.
and yes just puting up this poll in the first place does infer that there is a possiblity that chris is a cheat and it does hurt his reputation because it plants a seed in peoples minds.
but is it really hard to believe a company is capable of doing some thing like that. companys all over the world do shady things all the time. We, the general public, need to constantly question what is happening in our world. the minute we don't is the minute we will start to be taken advantage of. Not by Chris, but by the people who see you have blind trust.
The bottom line is, if you think chris is on the straight and narrow like i do, then vote that way, and let the poll speak for it self. There are other people on the way to doing the same thing he accomplished.
Of course it is just a poll. Chris Ferguson might be a cheating scumbag. |
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1JUMPY1 Royal Flush
Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 881 Location: Palos Hills Il.
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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't make a single acusation , I "STATED" something by saying comparing him to retarded people was insulting to retarded people every where...and I stand buy that . The things that were being said without any kind of proof are just .......well they have a profanity filter so...
I am not a hypocrite- I made the same points over and over.... But since you want to attack me...I took the time to read thru EVERY SINGLE ONE of your post's
IMO
65% flame bait
15% non-sense
20% "good stuff" , some of it very funny
I dont claim to be on the same level as the regulars in this forum, but you are a guy who should have one of those "NEGATIVE POST COUNTS"
I try to be as helpfull as I can, being as new as I am to this forum ..and because I don't play for cash yet (soon) I don't bother posting in the stratagy threads....but I read evey one of them
I feel bad that you attacked me, because we live close enough that we could of played some hands together. Oh well , I guess you wouldn't want the chance to call me names to my face .See when you get to say stuff like this under cloak of anonymity you just might say some thing about some one you would not dare say to their face . That was my entire point I am sorry that you don't understand how rotten it is to question the integrity of a person who is such a "stand up guy" (a south side term, you're from Chicago. you know what it means). I will speak up for ANYONE I think is being wrongfully acused....even you . |
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