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Dekuman
High Card


Joined: 09 Aug 2007
Posts: 14

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:14 am    Post subject: Sigh, what can you do Reply with quote

Well I started the table with 20 bucks and was up to about 70 ....then this hand happens...After the reraise...he had to at least know I had nut flush and at WORST trips Kings...yet he still calls with top two. Back down to 17 dollars at the table and have to start from square one...man I hate these kind of hands.

Full Tilt Poker Game #3307454202: Table Vista Run - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 2:02:27 ET - 2007/08/20
Seat 1: Steinbeisser ($5.55)
Seat 2: j006mmy ($62)
Seat 3: addison08 ($119.60)
Seat 4: BOmanOTH ($42.70)
Seat 5: iwwmm23d ($15.45)
Seat 6: dekuman ($62.70)
Seat 7: perkashen ($48.75)
Seat 8: BLUE23 ($19.70)
Seat 9: djhomeschool ($52.60)
Steinbeisser has 5 seconds left to act
Steinbeisser posts the small blind of $0.25
j006mmy posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dekuman [Th 5s As Ts]
addison08 folds
BOmanOTH raises to $1
iwwmm23d folds
dekuman calls $1
perkashen folds
BLUE23 folds
djhomeschool folds
Steinbeisser calls $0.75
j006mmy calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [6s Ks Qs]
Steinbeisser bets $4
j006mmy folds
BOmanOTH raises to $16
dekuman raises to $56
Steinbeisser calls $0.55, and is all in
BOmanOTH calls $25.70, and is all in
dekuman shows [Th 5s As Ts]
Steinbeisser shows [6c 2d Js 4s]
BOmanOTH shows [Ac Qh Kd 4d]
Uncalled bet of $14.30 returned to dekuman
*** TURN *** [6s Ks Qs] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [6s Ks Qs Kc] [8d]
dekuman shows a flush, Ace high, for high
BOmanOTH shows a full house, Kings full of Queens, for high
BOmanOTH wins the side pot ($72.15) with a full house, Kings full of Queens
Steinbeisser shows a flush, King high, for high
BOmanOTH wins the main pot ($16.80) with a full house, Kings full of Queens
Steinbeisser stands up
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $91.95 Main pot $17.65. Side pot $74.30. | Rake $3
Board: [6s Ks Qs Kc 8d]
Seat 1: Steinbeisser (small blind) showed [6c 2d Js 4s] and lost with HI: a flush, King high
Seat 2: j006mmy (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: addison08 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: BOmanOTH showed [Ac Qh Kd 4d] and won ($88.95) with HI: a full house, Kings full of Queens
Seat 5: iwwmm23d didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: dekuman showed [Th 5s As Ts] and lost with HI: a flush, Ace high
Seat 7: perkashen didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: BLUE23 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: djhomeschool (button) didn't bet (folded)
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Strasse
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Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 3600
Location: Austin, TX

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, to answer your question of "what can you do?", you can fold preflop. That's not a very good hand to play, especially to play for a raise.
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uh-oh
Four of a Kind


Joined: 27 Jul 2005
Posts: 346
Location: Annoying U

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a mini raise from a similar hand. Perhaps most hands were getting small bumps pre-flop.
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Strasse
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Joined: 16 Nov 2005
Posts: 3600
Location: Austin, TX

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uh-oh wrote:
It was a mini raise from a similar hand. Perhaps most hands were getting small bumps pre-flop.


I still wouldn't even limp that hand.
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Frankjones
Two Pair


Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Posts: 67

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

your hand lost to 2 pair when the two pair filled up? This happens thousands of times a day. Was this really deserving fo a forum post?
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Damian555
Three of a Kind


Joined: 24 Aug 2007
Posts: 96

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree with Strasse, I don't think you did anything wrong.
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IM2GOOD4UMATE
Banned


Joined: 16 Nov 2007
Posts: 42
Location: Rocky's Gone?! Next is Izan.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damian555 wrote:
I disagree with Strasse, I don't think you did anything wrong.


OBV you don't play much Omaha, Th 5s As Ts is not that good of a hand. You have an ace with a horrible kicker, at best your going to get lucky and hit trips or hit a flush draw.

Dekuman your re-raise on the flop doesn't make sence, OBV Steinbeisser or BOmanOTH have hit that flop and have an actual hand, you are on nothing but a draw. Sure its a "Royal Flush" draw, but seriously...that Jack of spades isn't coming...

IMO your flop play was horrible.
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craigo6x
Message Board Junkie


Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 2475
Location: Riding a 10 game winning streak

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good read Mate-you are too good for us. The fact that he flopped the nut flush would surely put him on a draw.

Nothing you can do here except as strasse points out-fold pre flop.

Your low draw is putrid, your pair is putrid, All you have is As10s.

Also, on the flop maybe don't commit all your chips. What if your opponent had KK in his hand? See what the turn brings-If it doesn't pair the board, then get your chips in.
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BlowupPoker-com
High Card


Joined: 26 Nov 2007
Posts: 20

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd rather you played this hand from the BB or SB where it's a discount to see the flop, but sometimes you cant wait all day like Strasse for good cards.
Since you're in, all you can really hope for is a rainbow flop containing a Ten; a 234; or a thin chance of the flush.
Once the villain pots it ahead of you, you have to put him on the J high flush, or a set (definitely not 2 pr).
Either way, repotting him may not be the best move since you either only get him to fold (= less money), or make him commit his draw for the boat. Flat calling his big raise lets him think he may be ahead of you or that he can push you out on the turn. Either way you get to see the turn card before committing your whole profit. If he does have the J high flush you can pot it on a safe turn card. All the while you dont have to worry about the low robbing half your pot.
Of course his play was FAR worse than yours, but who is really surprised..

CK
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2 high flush
Forum Bounty Hunter


Joined: 03 Nov 2005
Posts: 5967
Location: Hell. Life Hell that is.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DAMMIT. every time i see this guy post i think about Zelda. damn deku sticks.
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peanutflush
High Card


Joined: 25 Nov 2007
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd usually fold preflop. Then again, you have a player who is willing to put all his chips in with 2 pair on a one suited flop. So maybe you should play every hand.

Don't worry about it, he got lucky. Reload and win your money back, the guy who won this hand is trying to give them away, obviously.
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LazurusLong
High Card


Joined: 10 Feb 2008
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the nut flush get as much money in the pot as you can. If he has a set of kings you are a 56-44 favorite to win the hand. You have the very best hand and he is drawing. Top two is even worse for him as he has only 4 outs instead of 10. If you call his bet, he is not really getting a free card because he has committed money, but make him pay for all his money to draw. If he does, he is making a mistake and that is all you can ask of poker. If you have Broadway, and no flush draw to go with it, you can only call because he may have you tied and be freerolling for the flush, but you can't be tied for the nut flush and there is no hand that is a favorite to beat you. Get all your money in on the flop. Too many times, I've slow played the nut flush and gotten drawn out on. Peddle the nuts!!
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ManilaDog
Message Board Junkie


Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Posts: 3592
Location: Brockton Ma and Republic Of Philippines

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but they would have called a clock before three months
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