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dodge these
Straight Flush


Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 457

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Why I am always broke.... Reply with quote

** Game ID 1532447347 starting - 2007-08-02 14:31:45
** Cenewig [Omaha] (0.10|0.20 Pot Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- 8441 sitting in seat 1 with $35.84
- ivarruste sitting in seat 2 with $18.25 [Dealer]
- Ipseli sitting in seat 3 with $19.00
- M_Bengtsson sitting in seat 4 with $9.30
- AtlasEyes sitting in seat 5 with $11.46
- playin_poker sitting in seat 6 with $12.46

Ipseli posted the small blind - $0.10
M_Bengtsson posted the big blind - $0.20

** Dealing card to playin_poker: Jack of Diamonds, Ace of Diamonds, 9 of Hearts, 10 of Clubs
AtlasEyes called - $0.20
playin_poker raised - $0.90
8441 called - $0.90
ivarruste called - $0.90
Ipseli called - $0.90
M_Bengtsson folded
AtlasEyes called - $0.90

** Dealing the flop: 7 of Hearts, 4 of Spades, 9 of Spades
Ipseli bet - $1.17
AtlasEyes folded
playin_poker called - $1.17
8441 called - $1.17
ivarruste called - $1.17

** Dealing the turn: 9 of Diamonds
Ipseli bet - $2.34
playin_poker went all-in - $10.39
8441 folded
ivarruste folded
Ipseli called - $10.39

** Dealing the river: 6 of Clubs
playin_poker shows: Jack of Diamonds, Ace of Diamonds, 9 of Hearts, 10 of Clubs
Ipseli shows: 7 of Clubs, 2 of Clubs, 8 of Hearts, 5 of Hearts
Ipseli wins $29.86 from the main pot

End of game 1532447347
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bigdustinb
Two Pair


Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 53

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I have a few things to say. Fist off wow bad play by both of you. In omaha having one card trips is never something to go all in on. Someone usually has a made full house or straight and flush draws. Yes it was a bad beat this hand but the reason you are broke is because you play like crap for omaha.
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cds tripaces
Royal Flush


Joined: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 942
Location: Maryland

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigdustinb wrote:
Yes it was a bad beat this hand but the reason you are broke is because you play like crap for omaha.


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Kloaked Spirit
Royal Flush


Joined: 03 Nov 2005
Posts: 869

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not liking this flop call.

- The flop is multi-way;
- You don't have position;
- There's a flush draw that is not to your suit; and
- All you have is top pair + 3-out gutshot that you'd be comfortable with if it hit (you may be comfortable with the A hitting given the table layout.)

I don't like the all-in on this turn because it's still a multi-way pot and it's unlikely (times like these are definitely the exception) that you're ever going to be getting called here by a hand that you beat. So you're clearly having to shove for fold equity and I don't think you're getting everyone to fold here often enough for you to make this shove profitable.
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dodge these
Straight Flush


Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 457

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I would agree that playing trips like that typically is a bad idea in omaha, I think given my impresion of my opponents it was a good play. I was 90%+ sure that if either of them hit that flop they would have check-raised or reraised instead of just bettign out or calling, therefore I was fairly certain that none of them had a boat on the turn. In fact when I called I was planing on check-raising any turn that did not complete a str8 or flush (with the possible exception of a K), which is why I really called and not because I was expecting to catch a big hand. Even if I am wrong this time then I still have 9 outs as all my cards are overs to the flop. What I think I can get called with here is any weaker 9 where they are the ones drawing to a full, or a wrap or flush draw. So while I did not expect a hand as week as this to call I would expect to get called here by a bunch of hands that I am about a 3/1 fav over, given the board and my hole cards, so pushing for folding equity here was not a consideration though I did not want to give any free cards to a wrap or flush.
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