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Honest_Rob
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 8613 Location: I neither know nor think that I know. (drinking myself stupid obv)
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: A couple of hands. Please help! |
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Did that sound desperate enough?
To everyone who's been commenting on these hands I've been posting. Thanks. I appreciate your insight and expertise.
How did I play these hands? I'll post what happened on 7th later.
Full Tilt Poker Game #2523318981: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (19183703), Table 1 - 60/120 Ante 10 - Limit Seven Card Stud - 18:58:33 ET - 2007/05/27
Seat 1: Scrushy (1,150)
Seat 2: LuckyYoo777 (1,955)
Seat 3: PUNK BIOCH (1,175)
Seat 4: nykev1 (970)
Seat 5: glen92ann (2,010)
Seat 6: Honest_Rob (2,320)
Seat 7: thesungod (1,140)
Seat 8: patriot1958 (1,280)
Scrushy antes 10
LuckyYoo777 antes 10
PUNK BIOCH antes 10
nykev1 antes 10
glen92ann antes 10
Honest_Rob antes 10
thesungod antes 10
patriot1958 antes 10
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to Scrushy [Kh]
Dealt to LuckyYoo777 [4s]
Dealt to PUNK BIOCH [Kc]
Dealt to nykev1 [Kd]
Dealt to glen92ann [Jh]
Dealt to Honest_Rob [Ts Qd] [Td]
Dealt to thesungod [4c]
Dealt to patriot1958 [Th]
thesungod is low with [4c]
thesungod has 15 seconds left to act
thesungod brings in for 20
patriot1958 calls 20
Scrushy folds
LuckyYoo777 folds
PUNK BIOCH folds
nykev1 folds
glen92ann folds
Honest_Rob completes it to 60
thesungod calls 40
patriot1958 calls 40
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [Ts Qd Td] [2d]
Dealt to thesungod [4c] [9s]
Dealt to patriot1958 [Th] [8d]
patriot1958 checks
Honest_Rob bets 60
thesungod calls 60
patriot1958 calls 60
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [Ts Qd Td 2d] [3d]
Dealt to thesungod [4c 9s] [Qc]
Dealt to patriot1958 [Th 8d] [3s]
thesungod checks
patriot1958 checks
Honest_Rob bets 120
thesungod calls 120
patriot1958 folds
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [Ts Qd Td 2d 3d] [7s]
Dealt to thesungod [4c 9s Qc] [Ah]
thesungod bets 120
Honest_Rob calls 120
*** 7TH STREET ***
Full Tilt Poker Game #2523333287: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (19183703), Table 1 - 60/120 Ante 10 - Limit Seven Card Stud - 19:00:46 ET - 2007/05/27
Seat 1: Scrushy (1,130)
Seat 2: LuckyYoo777 (1,935)
Seat 3: PUNK BIOCH (1,155)
Seat 4: nykev1 (950)
Seat 5: glen92ann (1,990)
Seat 6: Honest_Rob (2,860)
Seat 7: thesungod (740)
Seat 8: patriot1958 (1,240)
Scrushy antes 10
LuckyYoo777 antes 10
PUNK BIOCH antes 10
nykev1 antes 10
glen92ann antes 10
Honest_Rob antes 10
thesungod antes 10
patriot1958 antes 10
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to Scrushy [Jc]
Dealt to LuckyYoo777 [2d]
Dealt to PUNK BIOCH [6c]
Dealt to nykev1 [Ts]
Dealt to glen92ann [2s]
Dealt to Honest_Rob [7s Jh] [Js]
Dealt to thesungod [7c]
Dealt to patriot1958 [2h]
LuckyYoo777 is low with [2d]
LuckyYoo777 brings in for 20
PUNK BIOCH calls 20
nykev1 completes it to 60
glen92ann folds
Honest_Rob calls 60
thesungod folds
patriot1958 folds
Scrushy folds
LuckyYoo777 folds
PUNK BIOCH calls 40
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to PUNK BIOCH [6c] [Ad]
Dealt to nykev1 [Ts] [Td]
Dealt to Honest_Rob [7s Jh Js] [4s]
nykev1 bets 120
Honest_Rob has 15 seconds left to act
Honest_Rob folds
PUNK BIOCH calls 120
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to PUNK BIOCH [6c Ad] [Qs]
Dealt to nykev1 [Ts Td] [Ac]
nykev1 bets 120
PUNK BIOCH folds
Uncalled bet of 120 returned to nykev1
nykev1 mucks
nykev1 wins the pot (520)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 520 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Scrushy folded on 3rd St.
Seat 2: LuckyYoo777 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 3: PUNK BIOCH folded on 5th St.
Seat 4: nykev1 collected (520), mucked
Seat 5: glen92ann folded on 3rd St.
Seat 6: Honest_Rob folded on 4th St.
Seat 7: thesungod folded on 3rd St.
Seat 8: patriot1958 folded on 3rd St. |
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Strasse Forum ***
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 7020 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hand 1: Played very well. Perhaps you could maybe try raising on 6th when he bets into you, since you have a scary looking board. But also he is probably a donkey, and he is betting into you, so the call is probably the better play.
Hand 2: I would have raised the completion. Try and get the pot heads up, and put him on the defensive. I think the fold after he pairs his door card is good, because you would have to call a lot to find out whether he has 3 10s or not. |
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BKMastermind375 Pair
Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 34 Location: Rochester, NY or Clemson, SC
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hand One: I completely agree with what advice Strasse gave you. I don't think the villain has aces up yet, and that you could make two pair or the flush to win the pot here.
Hand Two: Honestly; I think just calling the completion is the better play here since one of your jacks and a seven is dead already. By not raising him on third, it would make it easier for you fold the hand later on if you don't improve (and with the dead cards, you're obviously less likely to) and he catches some scare cards. I do agree with the fold on 4th. |
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mathman1115 Wizard of Odderation
Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 3738 Location: Land of the Fightin' Phillies
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Strasse wrote: |
Hand 1: Played very well. Perhaps you could maybe try raising on 6th when he bets into you, since you have a scary looking board. But also he is probably a donkey, and he is betting into you, so the call is probably the better play.
Hand 2: I would have raised the completion. Try and get the pot heads up, and put him on the defensive. I think the fold after he pairs his door card is good, because you would have to call a lot to find out whether he has 3 10s or not. |
Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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Honest_Rob
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 8613 Location: I neither know nor think that I know. (drinking myself stupid obv)
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all the replies. I'm pleased to see that pretty much I played it ok. Stud has always been my worst game. Here's how the first hand played out. There's no reason for me to bet 7th is there? Will I ever be called by anything I can beat?
Full Tilt Poker Game #2523318981: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (19183703), Table 1 - 60/120 Ante 10 - Limit Seven Card Stud - 18:58:33 ET - 2007/05/27
Seat 1: Scrushy (1,150)
Seat 2: LuckyYoo777 (1,955)
Seat 3: PUNK BIOCH (1,175)
Seat 4: nykev1 (970)
Seat 5: glen92ann (2,010)
Seat 6: Honest_Rob (2,320)
Seat 7: thesungod (1,140)
Seat 8: patriot1958 (1,280)
Scrushy antes 10
LuckyYoo777 antes 10
PUNK BIOCH antes 10
nykev1 antes 10
glen92ann antes 10
Honest_Rob antes 10
thesungod antes 10
patriot1958 antes 10
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to Scrushy [Kh]
Dealt to LuckyYoo777 [4s]
Dealt to PUNK BIOCH [Kc]
Dealt to nykev1 [Kd]
Dealt to glen92ann [Jh]
Dealt to Honest_Rob [Ts Qd] [Td]
Dealt to thesungod [4c]
Dealt to patriot1958 [Th]
thesungod is low with [4c]
thesungod has 15 seconds left to act
thesungod brings in for 20
patriot1958 calls 20
Scrushy folds
LuckyYoo777 folds
PUNK BIOCH folds
nykev1 folds
glen92ann folds
Honest_Rob completes it to 60
thesungod calls 40
patriot1958 calls 40
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [Ts Qd Td] [2d]
Dealt to thesungod [4c] [9s]
Dealt to patriot1958 [Th] [8d]
patriot1958 checks
Honest_Rob bets 60
thesungod calls 60
patriot1958 calls 60
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [Ts Qd Td 2d] [3d]
Dealt to thesungod [4c 9s] [Qc]
Dealt to patriot1958 [Th 8d] [3s]
thesungod checks
patriot1958 checks
Honest_Rob bets 120
thesungod calls 120
patriot1958 folds
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [Ts Qd Td 2d 3d] [7s]
Dealt to thesungod [4c 9s Qc] [Ah]
thesungod bets 120
Honest_Rob calls 120
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [Ts Qd Td 2d 3d 7s] [5c]
thesungod checks
Honest_Rob checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
thesungod shows [9d 8c 4c 9s Qc Ah 3c] (a pair of Nines)
Honest_Rob shows [Qd Ts Td 2d 3d 7s 5c] (a pair of Tens)
Honest_Rob wins the pot (920) with a pair of Tens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 920 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Scrushy folded on 3rd St.
Seat 2: LuckyYoo777 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 3: PUNK BIOCH folded on 3rd St.
Seat 4: nykev1 folded on 3rd St.
Seat 5: glen92ann folded on 3rd St.
Seat 6: Honest_Rob showed [Qd Ts Td 2d 3d 7s 5c] and won (920) with a pair of Tens
Seat 7: thesungod showed [9d 8c 4c 9s Qc Ah 3c] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 8: patriot1958 folded on 5th St. |
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Strasse Forum ***
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 7020 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| Good check. |
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IAmTheVietcong Straight Flush
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 355 Location: College
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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First hand is standard.
No way do you raise on third street for the second hand. That is awful advice. One jack and a seven is dead and it is highly unlikely that the two opponents who are already in are folding. All you do is bloat the pot early, giving them correct pot odds to outdraw you. As a matter of fact, I'd actually fold this hand a tight, solid table on third street. You don't have much chance for improvement early and you're only going to feel comfortable if you hit the case jack.
At your table, calling third and folding fourth is standard. |
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Strasse Forum ***
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 7020 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| IAmTheVietcong wrote: |
First hand is standard.
No way do you raise on third street for the second hand. That is awful advice. One jack and a seven is dead and it is highly unlikely that the two opponents who are already in are folding. All you do is bloat the pot early, giving them correct pot odds to outdraw you. As a matter of fact, I'd actually fold this hand a tight, solid table on third street. You don't have much chance for improvement early and you're only going to feel comfortable if you hit the case jack.
At your table, calling third and folding fourth is standard. |
I think you play way too tight. I'm 95% sure I have the completor beat, and since the first player in the pot only limped, raising the completion may squeeze him out, since he would have to cold call a double bet. I'd also be MORE inclined to raise because my cards are dead. I want to win the pot quick, since its less likely that I will improve. |
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