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Bingopup
High Card


Joined: 02 Nov 2005
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:42 am    Post subject: Cheats and Fraud Reply with quote

I have watched some players winning hand after hand defying the statiscal probabilities. After such a player leaves the room, I immediatley did a search on their ID and I was told that they are not in the database. This is impossible. It should say they are not sitting at a table. I made sure to type the ID exactly the way they had it. Nobody's account just disappears.

The strange part is that this is in the play money rooms. Why would someone cheat for play money? Are they testing something to be later used for real money? Are they full tilt employees? Are they just sickos? Please don't just say LOSER or some ignorant comment becuase we are talking about play money and I could care less about losing play money. Why and how are these extremely lucky individuals vanishing from the database?
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KGBlovesOreos
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Joined: 28 Jun 2005
Posts: 5318
Location: VA

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you sure you are copying down their SN's correctly? even though it's "just play money", if what you are saying is correct, then this problem needs to be fixed by FTP... these could be "poker bots" that are being tested in the play money tables, i'm not saying they are, but it's possible...
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Bingopup
High Card


Joined: 02 Nov 2005
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:32 pm    Post subject: Cheats and Frauds Reply with quote

KGB,
I am 100% sure that I have used the correct SN's. I am used to writing code so I am very careful to get the spelling correct with spaces, dashes and underscores etc. I have seen this happen on three seperate occassions with three different SN's. Your theory of a poker bot could be right on. What better place to test out a bot than the play money rooms?
If this is true, it is certainly not a good thing. Such a bot could be used in real money rooms as well. Full Tilt should not allow this in any rooms.
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TilterDoug
Site Admin


Joined: 25 Jul 2005
Posts: 297

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bingo,

Do you still have any of the player ID's? If not, you may be able to go through your hand history files if you have them stored on your hard drive.
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Piney1000
Four of a Kind


Joined: 08 Oct 2005
Posts: 298
Location: Crappy State ILL

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tilterdowg is right. Send them the info ASAP/
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bbwvixen
High Card


Joined: 06 Nov 2005
Posts: 19

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They won't care, your get a generic email saying t hey don't have bots
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roogs31
Pair


Joined: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

bbwvixen wrote:
They won't care, your get a generic email saying t hey don't have bots


yeah, and the sites aren't designed to reward **** players and calls either.

they lie through their teeth. online poker is fraudulent. Good players would win so much more if these things weren't rigged to allow more equality. Its such BS!
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Jaconda78
Message Board Junkie


Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 4177

PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

roogs31 wrote:
bbwvixen wrote:
They won't care, your get a generic email saying t hey don't have bots


yeah, and the sites aren't designed to reward **** players and calls either.

they lie through their teeth. online poker is fraudulent. Good players would win so much more if these things weren't rigged to allow more equality. Its such BS!


Stats? Proof? No, of course not...
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reissmgr
Full House


Joined: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 175
Location: Upstate NY

PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was wondering if we could get a follow up on the original post in this thread regarding the possibility of pokerbots as it has been almost a week since the last related post. anyword bingopup or tilterdoug, or bingopup have you still noticed this on the play money, or real money, tables? just wondering, thanks.
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Pokit2s
Message Board Junkie


Joined: 22 Jun 2005
Posts: 1261

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:57 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

roogs31 wrote:


yeah, and the sites aren't designed to reward **** players and calls either.

they lie through their teeth. online poker is fraudulent. Good players would win so much more if these things weren't rigged to allow more equality. Its such BS!


I know what you mean. I was playin in a golf tournament the other day, I lipped out like 5 putts. The damn golf courses are rigged too!! The world is out to screw us!
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roogs31
Pair


Joined: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:01 pm    Post subject: I laugh at you Reply with quote

You can't outplay your opponent in golf and lose consistently.
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roogs31
Pair


Joined: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Jaconda78 wrote:

Stats? Proof? No, of course not...


I'm sorry, i have a life, i dont' sit online and chat in a poker forum all day or count cards and statistics. sorry bro.
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njweaver
High Card


Joined: 16 Aug 2005
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:31 am    Post subject: Done with Full Tilt Reply with quote

I cannot continue to feed idiot players with my hard earned money. It gets old after a while when stupid plays are consistently rewarded. I play at the AC casinos several times a week so keep your comments about "real life bad beats to youreself". I am saddened because I would enjoy playing on line if it was somewhat realistic. Chek out ft random card generator if you are still in denial. I doubt if there will be any tight players on this site within a year. You see good players are seldom behind when the chips are in the middle and the cards are turned over, we don't get many chances to suck out just frustrating. Tonight was the finale to my frustration pocket aces 4 times and lost them all. to - 1. Ace Jack clubs 2. pocket eights 3. ace king 4 and just now to 2 3 off suite. SEEYA
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roogs31
Pair


Joined: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

right, so some douche bag calls my all in, (twice the pot and he had just a few more chips than me) with 3rd pair, my aces lose on the river, he gets a two pair. same ole **** everytime aces pop up for anyone. they rarely hold. I'd rather have suited connectors than aces in an all in preflop situation at this site. amazing. and then they wanna argue, "find me some stats."

I could sit here for days and come up with numbers and facts and prove this website doesn't fit the numbers, but who would believe me? No one that already doesn't. exactly.
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Pokit2s
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Joined: 22 Jun 2005
Posts: 1261

PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:41 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

roogs31 wrote:

I could sit here for days and come up with numbers and facts and prove this website doesn't fit the numbers, but who would believe me? No one that already doesn't. exactly.


I beg the differ, if you could come up with PROOF then you would have many believers. But when you say numbers and facts, are you just going to post your bad beats?? I think you'd need a few hundred thousand hands for that. I dont think you could come up with sufficient proof to prove one way or another.
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