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Joe_King · Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: I have to push here ,,right?

I only called pre flop as there was no one left to act behind me and could have gotten away from the hand if i missed the flop.
Was i right to push with this hand ?
Should i have led out and bet instead of check raising?
Could i have gotten away from it ?

Full Tilt Poker Game #2264703850: $100 Freeroll (16999810), Table 200 - 40/80 - Pot Limit Omaha - 14:25:35 ET - 2007/04/22
Seat 1: rickydie66 (1,185), is sitting out
Seat 2: HUMBOLDT 299 (15,050)
Seat 3: aztitan (3,152)
Seat 4: hookups17 (1,175), is sitting out
Seat 5: ggdc (2,730)
Seat 6: Golgathus (1,150), is sitting out
Seat 7: tilley112 (4,803), is sitting out
Seat 8: Joe_King (6,538)
Seat 9: Imsosexy (1,175), is sitting out
Golgathus posts the small blind of 40
tilley112 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Joe_King [4c Qc Qh 2s]
Joe_King calls 80
Imsosexy folds
rickydie66 folds
HUMBOLDT 299 raises to 360
aztitan calls 360
hookups17 folds
ggdc folds
Golgathus folds
tilley112 folds
Joe_King calls 280
*** FLOP *** [Qs 7c Ac]
Joe_King checks
HUMBOLDT 299 bets 1,200
aztitan folds
Joe_King raises to 4,800
HUMBOLDT 299 calls 3,600
*** TURN *** [Qs 7c Ac] [Tc]
Joe_King bets 1,378, and is all in
HUMBOLDT 299 calls 1,378
Joe_King shows [4c Qc Qh 2s]
HUMBOLDT 299 shows [3h Jd Jc Kc]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 7c Ac Tc] [Jh]
Joe_King shows a flush, Ace high
HUMBOLDT 299 shows a flush, Ace high
HUMBOLDT 299 wins the pot (13,556) with a flush, Ace high
Joe_King stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13,556 | Rake 0
Board: [Qs 7c Ac Tc Jh]
Seat 1: rickydie66 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: HUMBOLDT 299 showed [3h Jd Jc Kc] and won (13,556) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: aztitan folded on the Flop
Seat 4: hookups17 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: ggdc (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Golgathus (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: tilley112 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: Joe_King showed [4c Qc Qh 2s] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 9: Imsosexy didn't bet (folded)

goomlah · Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject:

The omaha experts might say to lay this down pre flop, but after the flop in tourney omaha and your stack you have to push. You had to think the opp had outs on the flop. Just unfortunate.

Kloaked Spirit · Royal Flush Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 869

In this tournament it could be read dependent. If this guy has been pretty tight and is the typical Raise = AAxx/KKxx player, you could find the fold. QQxx with one suit out of position isn't the type of hand you'd want to play in that position. If this guy's been ultra aggressive, then you may be able to justify the pre-flop call and re-evaluate on the turn.

I like that C/R on the flop. It entices him to bet at you if he's been pretty aggressive, and you very likely have the best hand. Plus if he really did have AAxx, you'd have to imagine your flush outs are still good. It's very likely that I'm taking the train to busto-town if I've seen the flop with that hand.

BOYNAMEDSUE · Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject:

QQ42 is not a good hand pre-flop. The QQ is good, but your other cards don't work. After the flop I would have pushed, too. Just got unlucky.

Kos13 · Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject:

You're basically playing with just QQ and a queen high flush draw, and that's not good. Your flush might not be good if you hit, so a set is really the only thing you can hope to hit here. Tough luck post-flop, but if you muck it pre-flop, you are never in that situation.

ilovewhitepeopl · Royal Flush Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 649

You can muck in freerolls?

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