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ketz · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: Bad Call?

Did I deserve to get abused by my opponent for making this call?

Full Tilt Poker Game #2109003514: Table Play Chip 1506 - 5/10 - No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 14:27:46 ET - 2007/03/31
Seat 4: mrod0000 (1,000)
Seat 5: pooltanninfrk (190)
Seat 9: poddis (2,010)
poddis posts the small blind of 5
mrod0000 posts the big blind of 10
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to poddis [Ah 8c Qd 2s]
pooltanninfrk calls 10
poddis raises to 40
mrod0000 calls 30
pooltanninfrk folds
*** FLOP *** [Qc 9d Jc]
poddis checks
mrod0000 bets 111
poddis raises to 423
mrod0000 raises to 960, and is all in
poddis calls 537
mrod0000 shows [7c 4h Qh Kc]
poddis shows [Ah 8c Qd 2s]
vince the ace sits down
*** TURN *** [Qc 9d Jc] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [Qc 9d Jc 8s] [9c]
vince the ace adds 1,000
mrod0000 shows a flush, King high, for high
poddis shows two pair, Queens and Nines, for high
mrod0000 wins the pot (2,010) with a flush, King high
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,010 | Rake 0
Board: [Qc 9d Jc 8s 9c]
Seat 4: mrod0000 (big blind) showed [7c 4h Qh Kc] and won (2,010) with HI: a flush, King high
Seat 5: pooltanninfrk (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: poddis (small blind) showed [Ah 8c Qd 2s] and lost with HI: two pair, Queens and Nines

Strasse · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject:

Well, of course you didn't deserve to get abused, but yes, that was a pretty horrible call. Also, I don't like the raise preflop. Yes, you have A2, but that is all. You don't have good high connectors like AKJ2, or a backup low like A23x, or anything suited to the ace. I would just limp along in this spot.

cubbies760 · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject:

Yes, I agree with Strasse, it wasn't a good call IMO. Granted, you were leading, and seemed like a good call after his hand was exposed, but you could have also been in bad shape, too.

There was 2 pair possible, flopping a straight, the flush draw with the Kc or Ac.

Maybe here it worked, but I don't think it is a good habit to get into. There are definately better spots to pick to push than this one.

ketz · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject:

Ahhh I can see know. I was in bad shape when the cards were turned over aswel. I have just started learning hi/lo and at least I have made the mistake now rather than in a real money situation Wink

Strasse · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject:

oldyd · Pair Joined: 14 Sep 2006 Posts: 49

Further, if a 10 would have hit it would have given you a Q-high straight which would have lost to your opponents K-high straight.

Pre-flop your hand was worth a limp and your opponents hand was worth the muck but after the flop his hand had some value and yours became trash.

yd

STC_Die · Pair Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 50

You don't deserve to get abused, after all you didn't runner runner bad beat the other player and it was play chips 5/10 NL. Your also playing play chips which are a great way to learn the game. Furthermore calling with just top pair (we can ignore the 99 since every one can use it) on a river that has a potential straight/flush/house/quads is very dangerous especially in omaha.
Continue playing play chip tables to get used to the game and move up stakes, players in the higher NL stakes tend to understand the game better and know when to fold (in other words less donkeys Very Happy

). FYI players who play "play money" omaha hi/lo regardless of stakes are REALLY loose compaired to players at...lets say 5/10c or 10/25c NL/PL tables.

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