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ephro
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

flafishy wrote:
OK. But my real question is, does some cardroom in Vegas (or elsewhere in the US) offer a regular Razz game?


A couple years ago when I was in Tunica, there was a 50/100 PL Lowball game at the Horseshoe.

Lowball is basically razz, I can't remeber if they were playing 2/7 or A/6, but basically straights don't count in both, hence the wheel isn't a low, and Aces are high in 2/7. Flushes are also high FYI.

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moose37849
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is the argosy a good casnio? I've been to the grand victoria once, it has a horrible poker game.....
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KGBlovesOreos
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

razz needs to show up on more sites/cardrooms... its a fun game to play despite the game getting zero exposure on tv... what a shame...
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DLS71
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the commerce casino in LA offers Razz all year round. They have pretty much all the games know to man.
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Shooter44
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

ephro wrote:
flafishy wrote:
OK. But my real question is, does some cardroom in Vegas (or elsewhere in the US) offer a regular Razz game?


A couple years ago when I was in Tunica, there was a 50/100 PL Lowball game at the Horseshoe.

Lowball is basically razz, I can't remeber if they were playing 2/7 or A/6, but basically straights don't count in both, hence the wheel isn't a low, and Aces are high in 2/7. Flushes are also high FYI.

ephro


Wrong on two counts ephro,

Lowball is 5 card draw played for low, Razz is 7 card stud. Very different games.

Straights do count in duece to seven lowball. Otherwise it would be duece to six.
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GripHoldOn
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:17 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Shooter44 wrote:
ephro wrote:
flafishy wrote:
OK. But my real question is, does some cardroom in Vegas (or elsewhere in the US) offer a regular Razz game?


A couple years ago when I was in Tunica, there was a 50/100 PL Lowball game at the Horseshoe.

Lowball is basically razz, I can't remeber if they were playing 2/7 or A/6, but basically straights don't count in both, hence the wheel isn't a low, and Aces are high in 2/7. Flushes are also high FYI.

ephro


Wrong on two counts ephro,

Lowball is 5 card draw played for low, Razz is 7 card stud. Very different games.

Straights do count in duece to seven lowball. Otherwise it would be duece to six.


When Ephro says straights don't count, what he means is they don't qualify for a low. He means that straights are high in both A/6 and 2/7. You're right that Lowball is a draw game while Razz is a stud game though.
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DevilfishFan
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Razz is the only game I can consistently beat. (low limits)
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KGBlovesOreos
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think one can make a good living at razz, it's just that there are so few games out there, it would be tough... if you played razz at the highest levels, there is no doubt that you can make a living at it... but if you were just an internet player, razz is probably not the most profitable game b/c there just isn't enough action...
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luvdoinit
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Razz also. I think its a great game and I have started to play it more and more. ESPN showed the 2004 Razz tourney and Howard Lederer was at the final table. I live near Commerce Casino but have not yet gone there. I'd be leary though to play razz there because I imagine I would be the least experienced player there.

That said there are often times in razz when you know beyond any doubt that your hand is unbeatable soley based on what the board shows. I would love it if more people played razz because I know I would do very well at it.
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Lowery
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:04 am    Post subject: RAZZ in LV Reply with quote

I heard the Wynn throws RAZZ and if you got the $$ there is heads-up with Daniel.
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Jaconda78
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

GripHoldOn wrote:
Shooter44 wrote:
ephro wrote:
flafishy wrote:
OK. But my real question is, does some cardroom in Vegas (or elsewhere in the US) offer a regular Razz game?


A couple years ago when I was in Tunica, there was a 50/100 PL Lowball game at the Horseshoe.

Lowball is basically razz, I can't remeber if they were playing 2/7 or A/6, but basically straights don't count in both, hence the wheel isn't a low, and Aces are high in 2/7. Flushes are also high FYI.

ephro


Wrong on two counts ephro,

Lowball is 5 card draw played for low, Razz is 7 card stud. Very different games.

Straights do count in duece to seven lowball. Otherwise it would be duece to six.


When Ephro says straights don't count, what he means is they don't qualify for a low. He means that straights are high in both A/6 and 2/7. You're right that Lowball is a draw game while Razz is a stud game though.


A-6? I've heard of 2-7 and A-5 lowball (in A-5, aces are low, and straights don't count against you, so the wheel is the nuts). Never heard of A-6 before, though.
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KGBlovesOreos
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: RAZZ in LV Reply with quote

Lowery wrote:
I heard the Wynn throws RAZZ and if you got the $$ there is heads-up with Daniel.


yep, if you want to play negreaneu heads up, it's $500,000... but thats not just for razz, you can play any game you want...
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Cue-Ball 66
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to be nitpicky, but sometimes I just can't help myself.

The wheel is also the best hand in deuce to seven lowball, it's just that 2,3,4,5,7 is termed 'the wheel' in that game.
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mikec7809
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

discopimp wrote:
I LOVE razz, never been so upset to get 3 face cards....But make a living would be pretty hard....I do recommend the game to anyone who loves a mental challenge...


I've never been so upset to start with trip kings before...
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dabjorn
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

mikec7809 wrote:
discopimp wrote:
I LOVE razz, never been so upset to get 3 face cards....But make a living would be pretty hard....I do recommend the game to anyone who loves a mental challenge...


I've never been so upset to start with trip kings before...


Trip Kings to start don't bothrt me nothing. Most hands are folded anyways. But Trips Kings to polish off your draw after betting big, that really would upset you.
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