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Im going to be playing alot of razz from now on, and if anyone needs help on their razz game, Id be willing to explain why I do things while I play Very Happy

Foxy_Boxer · Straight Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 105

Lucky_Bub · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:11 am Post subject:

Asf I was watching you play. Holy cow you are the best razz player I have even seen.

I'm not just saying that. When he says he dominates he really does lol.

Tiera Starr · Message Board Junkie Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 1827

I think I'm alright at razz, but I've had a bad run lately, so I'll take any advice to help me polish my game.

So, how does this work?

mysterious ron · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject:

Razz rocks and it's so easy to play. When i first started playing i got the hang of it fast.

dumwaldo · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject:

asfispimp · Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject:

Tiera Starr · Message Board Junkie Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 1827

okay, found you.
You are playing heads-up vs harvette

Tiera Starr · Message Board Junkie Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 1827

Full Tilt Poker Game #1858322575: $5 + $0.25 Heads Up Sit & Go (13830900), Table 1 - 40/80 Ante 7 - Limit Razz - 19:36:55 ET - 2007/02/23
Seat 1: harvette (828)
Seat 2: asfispimp (2,172)
harvette antes 7
asfispimp antes 7
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to harvette [Ks]
Dealt to asfispimp [7c]
harvette is high with [Ks]
harvette brings in for 10
asfispimp completes it to 40
harvette calls 30
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to harvette [Ks] [5h]
Dealt to asfispimp [7c] [Qh]
asfispimp bets 40
harvette calls 40
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to harvette [Ks 5h] [Tc]
Dealt to asfispimp [7c Qh] [7d]
harvette checks
asfispimp bets 80 You have xQ7 vs KT5, why not check and hope 6th changes the tide?
harvette calls 80
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to harvette [Ks 5h Tc] [7h]
Dealt to asfispimp [7c Qh 7d] [5c]
harvette bets 80
asfispimp calls 80
*** 7TH STREET ***
harvette checks
asfispimp checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
harvette shows [Jh 6s Ks 5h Tc 7h 4c] (T,7,6,5,4)
asfispimp mucks
harvette wins the pot (494) with T,7,6,5,4
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 494 | Rake 0
Seat 1: harvette collected (494)
Seat 2: asfispimp mucked

asfispimp

PokerAA · Message Board Junkie Joined: 24 Nov 2006 Posts: 1610

dumwaldo · Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:16 am Post subject:

Those were just general rules of thumb that I posted. Think of them as minimum requirements. Playing tighter is certainly OK but playing any looser than what I suggested is probably going to get you in trouble at the table.

Razz is actually one of the more complex variations in poker because it is so easy to make a hand. The thing you need to always keep in mind is how easy it is for your opponent to make a hand as well.

I suggest raising with 3 cards under 8 (2 being under 5) but if you are holding A,4,8 and someone before you raises with a 6 showing then you are probably best served by folding here. Your hand meets 'my minimum requirements' here but in the specific situation it is not so strong and you probably don't want to call in this situation with anything less than 3 cards under 6.

Razz, like all fixed limit games, needs to be played tight and with a lot of caution. There is only a finite amount of money you can win in any given hand so it is very difficult to recoup losses in hands that were played loosely.

Once again here is a general rule of thumb... Fold early, call late.

If your starting hand is not top quality then just fold it.

If you make it to the river and you are still in the hand you almost always have to call. Folding on the river is almost never the right move unless you have really played further into the hand than you should have without a hand with showdown value.

The most important thing to remember is it is still poker and the most important aspect of the game is exercising good judgment. Sometimes you should fold despite things 'looking right' and sometimes you should call despite a complete pile of bricks in front of you. Poker is ALWAYS situational and Razz is no different.

Big Slick x13x · Forum Icon Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 4125 Location: ROK

PokerAA · Message Board Junkie Joined: 24 Nov 2006 Posts: 1610

why would u call on 3rd when u are already starting with a brick? say the guy directly to my right is showing a 6 and completes... and i have A2Q, first of all, with just ONE more brick, i have to fold unless he also bricks, but then u also even sometimes have to fold because u are hoping for TOO much on the next couple of cards... then also if u put him on a bad hand early, and you are wrong about it, u will almost always be screwed and will lose a lot of chips... (it would matter about how the guy plays though) also, it pays off to be patient in razz from my experience in playing that way, especially with all the bad players, they pay u off when u have a hand

then also, razz is a 7 card game... that's what i thought, that if u have like an A24, and he is completing with a 6, why not re-raise? if u brick, and he catches a good card, like a 4, and then u brick again, u will waste a ton of chips without even being able to get to 7th... it is best to wait until u make your hand and then to start re-raising... it's not a 3 card game, u are limiting how many chips u lose just in case u brick and will make enough anyway if u catch
(i learned this from asfis, and the more i think about it, the more it makes sense, but then when i think about what i would do in holdem with AA, i wouldnt wait and would just start raising, so im not sure about playing like this yet) BUT so far it has DEFINITELY helped

and the last part u posted, i didnt even think about those certain situations

asfispimp · Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject:

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