Online Poker Forum - Building a bankroll at low limits

Chris_BGP · High Card Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 6

Last night deposited $50.... stuck to the PL .50-1.00 Holdem ring games.... 2 hours racked up $600.

my advice is to just be patient and remember you will ALWAYS get that one big hand that you need to double up... no matter how long you have to wait for it. Sit back and watch for a bit... find out who the loose cannons are and wait for the moment to set the trap. Also remember that your chip stack can play as an advantage to the lower stacks... dont be scared to re-raise or bet on the flop in limit holdem... you will either take down the pot or get raised. When raised... fold and move on to the next hand.

Dont ever get discouraged about folding a hand that hit... The discouragement will haunt you next time you get that hand... remember even though it hit last time its still a bad hand and you should still fold.

Dont get mad on bad beats... like i said in the beginning you will ALWAYS get the one big hand you need to double up...

I personally play a lot of hands in Limit holdem because preflop raises are limited and most people will only call with high cards... people with high pkt pairs will generally raise. if you have 7-8 suited and there is a preflop raise and only a couple players call... if the flop hits low you may want to bet at least 1/2 if not 3/4 the pot.... see what happens. Just remember... when your beat... your beat.

Good Luck!

DforDissent · Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject:

LOL RIGGED · High Card Joined: 20 Jul 2008 Posts: 17

good thread.

aarosakura · Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:40 am Post subject:

i built my roll from 83 cents,im up to 340$ now =D

Flowdown · High Card Joined: 01 Oct 2009 Posts: 13

I went from 33$ to 0$ , take 2 bonus released ($25) and now set myself some rules so I cannot go broke again.

Results after 4 days: up to $55 now. I don't have a bankroll that allows huge swings, so I play 2PLO/8 or 2NLHE cashgames and 1.10 NHLE 45 man sng's combined with shots of 5PLO/8 cashgames when I see an opportunity (table selection is the word). So far so good Smile

pwningNutz · Pair Joined: 25 Sep 2009 Posts: 25

to see somebody make $600 in 2 hours, i mean wow... i deposited $50 2 weeks ago, and with strict BRM am now on $154, you did 4x my work in 2 hrs :p

congratz and gl in the future ! =]

DforDissent · Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject:

Best way to boost your online micro-BR is to occasionally deposit half or a quarter of your LIVE winnings Wink

Seriously, I just did that this week, live $3/6 limit holdem had some maniacs who paid me off when my draws hit and took home $400 profit in 3 hours, $100 of that added to my FTP account so back to the "top end" of the microstakes again, no longer gonna have to grind the lowest and second-lowest buyins and have practically no chance at beating the rake...

IroncladMerc · Three of a Kind Joined: 25 Aug 2009 Posts: 80

My progress is glacial, I guess I'm just too conservative, but I started with $10 in August and I'm now up to $152.

lurgertor · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:17 am Post subject:

DeadMoneyDad · Full House Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 173

DC_Chen · High Card Joined: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 2

Interesting post/thread.

I did try to go on Ferguson plan - modified.
I know that im better at tournament play than ring games ...
somehow, the isolation from total exposure in a tournament is
a nice and natural deterent against tilting. So i managed to win some
via FR's then small tourneys.

I believe that you can slowly manage bankroll and start from scratch.
I was deposit free from late 2005 until January this year.
I had flushed my FR wins down a unmanaged tilt spree in heads up tourneys
and i had a little cash so i went ahead and made a deposit
(this i neither here nor there nor am i sore about having deposited now).
previous to that, i do believe, i cycled around whatever about 1900-2000ftp's worth
of FTPoints before my deposit)

im just here to say, you can do your micro bank management from FREE ROLLS.
no deposit necessary. (sound like a commercial?)

in some ways, the only reason i see someone depositing less than $500.00 is most likely because
you are really playing beyond your means ($100.00 and yea.. you really should be saving that
or spending it elsewheres and most likely somewhere in your life you've not got your
priorities right, is your 401k healthy? are your kids, future kids, going to have money for higher ed, etc etc
et f-en c., ) and should just start with freerolls and such.
(im sure this last statement is not agreeable to everyone)
The reason i say this is because what is 5 cents worth? 10 cents? 1 penny?
1 dollar? up to some "point", people actually start to "care" and not do bad calls.
This "point" differs from person-to-person. However, if you are playing with people
with nothing to lose except that $5.00 in there bank roll on the table in front of them,
they will make a crazy call or two and eventually luck out on you ... OR ... they are
SO TIGHT WAD that you should be looking to play looser players.
Either case, in a circumstance like this, it's who's is dealt better cards in the right situations...
this is not actually "skill". Face it, do you really know how to play AA better than the next guy - from a
preflop standpoint? how about after flop? do you REALLY? Wow, especially in a 10 cent/20 cent NL game.
Now do this thinking all the way down the list of hands playable and the types of flops you COULD see.
Now ... add this , how do you play AA when it's penny poker or
how would you play AA when you're playing $2/$5 at your local casino or
$25/$50?
The actual VALUE of the money you are risking WILL somehow vary your play.
The smaller stuff you will not be as tight and analytical as the bigger stuff.
Now... back to this thread ... i say that micro bank management is
just purely based on patience and perseverance and intentionally making a
"micro" deposit is really quite meaningless.

Anyways, i had run up to just under $300.00 but could never break that barrier.
my biggest hit was a single $180+ win in a $1 (1R+1A) or it coulda been a $2 ... too long ago.

MUST MANAGE TILT.
(which i did not manage well during my spiral down)

I just recently did a $30 deposit for FUN ... not really managing, just playing.
(well, perhaps i was "just playing" before as well, i'm sure some would say).

2 cents.

DforDissent · Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:14 am Post subject:

I would personally STRONGLY recommend AGAINST ever playing the NLHE superturbo headsup SnG as a "bankroll builder".

I've been playing them WAY too much, I admit they are an incomparable rush when you're "in the zone" and hitting and sucking out and trapping etc.

BUT

as a warning to others... it's VERY easy to have a drop of 10 12 or even 15 buyins very quickly, consecutive suckouts + bad timing for bluffs + way ahead on flop but perfect running cards for the chop = why the bleep do I play this game... I'm not sure how many buyins is "best" to handle the extreme variance, but I laughed when I first heard "about 100". Now I'm not so sure I shoulda so easily dismissed that number.

I started with like 30 buyins @ the $3.65, got a feel for how to counteract the various playing styles of opponents, got penisy and went up to $7 once I had 20 buyins and it seemed to still work pretty well so I went up to $14 at around the same # of buyins. Had early success.

And then, just now, I finished an insane 2 hour 200 game session that pretty much evened out at the end but WOW I have never seen so many Ace-rags hit their kickers and suited 94 T2 and Q6 flush out... not to mention low pairs beating QQ/KK/AA -- and this time it was mostly THEM doing that kind of sucking out! Wink

So, um, yeah, I was stupid to not quit while on that huge downswing, glad I recovered, but while my mind and emotions are fresh I want to do a service to the FTP community and post this as a "cautionary tale" warning to others... play them for "fun", not for BR-building! ... unless you've got ... um, let's say 40* buyins. ( <-- I reserve the right to change that to 50, 60, or even 100 during the next few days; the weekend is coming up...)

*40 buyins @ 3.50+.15 level = BR of 146+ which isn't exactly a "small" BR, so perhaps my warning/rant/exhaustedrambling is not as applicable to this thread as I would like... but then again maybe someone out there is tempted to jump on board the "fast track to BR growth" train, not realizing how sudden its starts and stops and derailing is -- tough on the heart, let me tell you! But, they're a monster fulltilt points (and thus rakeback) generator (Dec14 430.50, Dec15 89.25, Dec16 329.00, Dec17 708.75 -- all at $14 and $7 buyin...)

DeadMoneyDad · Full House Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 173

DforDissent · Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:35 pm Post subject:

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