Online Poker Forum - Lesson: 1 Sit N Goes Made Easy - comments on the lesson

Onazim · High Card Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 1 Location: Wisconsin

I just read Howard's Lesson 1. I'd like to point out one more reason to play tight early in a SNG: it can keep you in the game. Howard alluded to this.

I play $10 to $50 buy-in SNGs. At those levels, it seems that a good one fifth to one quarter of the entrants are all-in crazy.

I've found that, a lot of times, if I place a bet in a hand early in the tournament, somebody will try to get into a betting war with me and draw me all-in. I generally don't like to go all-in unless I have a pretty good idea that I've already won, so I find myself backing down.

I basically just give chips away if I bet too early in a SNG, unless, of course, I'm sitting on a monster. Even then it's risky. I've had pocket kings beat by pocket 3 4, so even the monsters can be slain pretty easily.

bertybert · Pair Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 22 Location: Newark, NJ

where did u read this in a book?

GripHoldOn · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:10 pm Post subject:

If you don't take a stand against these maniacs early, you'll find yourself so beaten down that by the time you DO pick up a hand, you'll need it to hold up just to get back to even! If you think you have even a slight edge, you want to take advantage of it as early as possible. It's better for you, and it should stop the maniacs from doing it to you in the future.

BOYNAMEDSUE · Moderator Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 9111 Location: Mypos

Maniac players should be raised and reraised with any strong hand. Since their starting hands are considerably weaker than most, you don't need monsters to raise them. You'll have the better hand most of the time.

One time I was playing a $10+1 sng, and a maniac player was raising everyone, then showing some very weak hands. When I picked up AJs I decided I would try to teach him a lesson. So I just limped. He was on the BB, and I knew he would raise. Sure enough he raised big, and I reraised all-in. He called, and showed suited connectors. Anyway, he made a straight, but that's not the point.

I had the better hand, but I got unlucky. So I made notes, and I'll get him back....if he has any money left.

KGBlovesOreos · Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:40 pm Post subject:

i love it when i find a few maniacs at my tables... they pretty much fit into the category of dead money, so its really easy to take their chips as long as you pick your spots...

Lepoppet · Straight Flush Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 359

Being female I have to say I LOVE the maniacs. Especially the "frat-boy, cool-dude, tough-guy" maniacs. It's sooooo easy to take their money and to put them on tilt all at the same time. They never expect it from a girl.

All the books say that you should play in a manner that is opposite your opponents. Maniacs are loose-agressive so I play tight-passive. That is, I limp into pots with premium hands, I call their raises after the flop and turn, then when they raise on the river I nail them with a huge re-raise or an all-in with the nuts.

The look on their face is priceless! Some even start to blubber...."WHAT?!?!" "What do you mean all-in?!?!", "I can't believe you trapped me!!!!", "SH*T!", "You B*TCH!!!", "Damn, take the pot!".

After that they usually go on tilt and any pre-flop raise from me will get them to fold their hands and I take their money.

LOVE THE PSYCHO FISHIES!!!!

Jaconda78 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4179

Lol. Lepoppet, I know EXACTLY what you mean. I play in a game at my dorm 6 days a week, and half those guys STILL can't handle being beat by a girl. The good players in the game (not many) have, of course, learned to treat me just like any other player, but some of the macho ones still love to try to run all over me 'cause I'm a weak little female...

Nothing like hearing, "****" at the poker table - it usually means I just won a hand...

BOYNAMEDSUE · Moderator Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 9111 Location: Mypos

Lol,

I hate playing against girls. I can never tell if they really don't know what they're doing, or just putting on an act.

mistaken69 · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:07 pm Post subject:

yea, use the maniacs to your advantage dude

KGBlovesOreos · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject: Re:

Lepoppet · Straight Flush Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 359

KGBlovesOreos · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:03 pm Post subject:

lol, i wear sunglasses too! anything to get me in the mood to crush the field, lol... 8)

bradAAAk · Four of a Kind Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 293

bertybert, onazim read that Howard Lederer tip on full tilts web site under- Our team/ask the pros they have tips from most of the pros on this site.

Funkay Flex · Straight Flush Joined: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 487 Location: VA

you could also follow the advice from both of jesus's emails on tournament poker. great stuff.

Jaconda78 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 4179

Haha - yea. I love making up tells, getting my opponents used to them, and then using it in a massive hand. I usually use them when I have a strong hand, and then later to bluff. I've had the drumming of fingers on the table, the playing with my chips, the looking away from the game, sitting up straight, getting really talky, getting really quiet (different games, obviously), and several others that I can't remember off the top of my head. It's great - they get so sure of themselves - "fold - she has the nuts. remember last time she drummed her fingers like that?" Hehe...

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