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RunningHearts
High Card
Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 1
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 Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: Datamining |
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Hi there!
1) I think, it's not a fair thing that it is possible to get Hand Histories (HH) on Full Tilt by only OBSERVING a table without using further software.
http://www.hand-histories.com/datamining.php
Notice how Full Tilt is mentioned in "Category 1": "These sites do
not require external software to record observed hands", while most other Poker Sites, especially the large sites like PartyPoker and PokerStars are mentioned in "Category 2" or "Category 3".
This makes it very easy for people to get tons of other player's statics while they are working, sleeping, going to school or w/e without investing time and paying rake.
A determined person gains an edge over other players, especially weak players, who can be spotted easily and attacked specifically.
2) On PartyPoker and PokerStars a program called "xxxxx"
is banned
(http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/). I think you should
be familiar with this program, however, to be sure, I'll explain how it
works: A player using "xxxxxx" get's tons of statistics about is
opponents from a central host, and at the same time, his own Hand
Histories are used to update the very same database he and other users
of "xxxxxx" are using. So there is no act like "selling" or "buying"
HH, it's done automatically.
I think these are two central points which make it much easier to
datamine on Full Tilt than on Party Poker or PokerStars. As Full Tilt
being the third largest Poker Room out there, I think you should think
about treating your customers equally fair. This was just an example,
there are other programs like this out there like Poker xxxxxx, but
this is the most popular one.
Don't get me wrong: I have nothing against programs using statics people earn themselves like PokerOffice or PokerTracker and PokerAce Hud, I use them myself, but this "HH sharing program" is not fair.
The reason I am censoring that program is that I don't want any players to get into it as I think it is not fair. |
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fire opal
High Card
Joined: 19 May 2007
Posts: 3
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: Micro Level Ring Games |
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| It would be nice if FTP had ring games in the .02-.04 and .05-.10c levels like almost ALL the other sites. Does Full Tilt think we are all rich? I thnk we deserve a chance to work our way up in levels. |
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2 high flush
Forum Bounty Hunter
Joined: 03 Nov 2005
Posts: 5888
Location: Aboard the bebop.
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Micro Level Ring Games |
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| fire opal wrote: |
| It would be nice if FTP had ring games in the .02-.04 and .05-.10c levels like almost ALL the other sites. Does Full Tilt think we are all rich? I thnk we deserve a chance to work our way up in levels. |
we have .5/.10 already.
and as tilterdoug said "a girls gotta have standards". basically he said it aint happenin. |
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fire opal
High Card
Joined: 19 May 2007
Posts: 3
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Micro Level Ring Games |
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| 2 high flush wrote: |
| fire opal wrote: |
| It would be nice if FTP had ring games in the .02-.04 and .05-.10c levels like almost ALL the other sites. Does Full Tilt think we are all rich? I thnk we deserve a chance to work our way up in levels. |
we have .5/.10 already.
and as tilterdoug said "a girls gotta have standards". basically he said it aint happenin. |
You have .05-.10 NO limit. I was refering to limit games which are .25-.50 minimum |
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2 high flush
Forum Bounty Hunter
Joined: 03 Nov 2005
Posts: 5888
Location: Aboard the bebop.
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| you didnt specify so i assumed. carry on. |
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nellboy
High Card
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Posts: 4
Location: norfolk uk
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| why dont fulltilt have heads up play money tables like ultimate bet |
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Flying_Kiwi
Message Board Junkie
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 5125
Location: Honky's class reunion
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| nellboy wrote: |
| why dont fulltilt have heads up play money tables like ultimate bet |
I think this is to stop people playing HU for play money and then transferring the stake to the winner, thus playing heads up and avoiding rake. Not to mention it is a drain on the server for no $ gain to FTP. |
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22 twos
Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Posts: 441
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| Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Datamining |
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| RunningHearts wrote: |
Hi there!
1) I think, it's not a fair thing that it is possible to get Hand Histories (HH) on Full Tilt by only OBSERVING a table without using further software.
http://www.hand-histories.com/datamining.php
Notice how Full Tilt is mentioned in "Category 1": "These sites do
not require external software to record observed hands", while most other Poker Sites, especially the large sites like PartyPoker and PokerStars are mentioned in "Category 2" or "Category 3".
This makes it very easy for people to get tons of other player's statics while they are working, sleeping, going to school or w/e without investing time and paying rake.
A determined person gains an edge over other players, especially weak players, who can be spotted easily and attacked specifically.
2) On PartyPoker and PokerStars a program called "xxxxx"
is banned
(http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/). I think you should
be familiar with this program, however, to be sure, I'll explain how it
works: A player using "xxxxxx" get's tons of statistics about is
opponents from a central host, and at the same time, his own Hand
Histories are used to update the very same database he and other users
of "xxxxxx" are using. So there is no act like "selling" or "buying"
HH, it's done automatically.
I think these are two central points which make it much easier to
datamine on Full Tilt than on Party Poker or PokerStars. As Full Tilt
being the third largest Poker Room out there, I think you should think
about treating your customers equally fair. This was just an example,
there are other programs like this out there like Poker xxxxxx, but
this is the most popular one.
Don't get me wrong: I have nothing against programs using statics people earn themselves like PokerOffice or PokerTracker and PokerAce Hud, I use them myself, but this "HH sharing program" is not fair.
The reason I am censoring that program is that I don't want any players to get into it as I think it is not fair. |
i read part of that. and all i got was "datamining is bad/unethical". may i ask you this: "ARE YOU HALF RETARDED?" carry one. |
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wildfire617
High Card
Joined: 11 Jun 2007
Posts: 19
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: Transfer of play chips |
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| SOMEONE BETTER TELL ME RIGHT NOW HOW YOU TURN PLAY CHIPS INTO MONEY LOL ... |
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wildfire617
High Card
Joined: 11 Jun 2007
Posts: 19
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| last time i checked FTP had a BUNCH of heads up for play money tables... |
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All In Vacuum
High Card
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
Posts: 2
Location: austin,texas
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:11 am Post subject: how to play in Fantasy Poker League |
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| Pls tell me how to play in Fantasy Poker League. Thanks and Look forward to hear to hear from you as soon as possible |
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G316K
High Card
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Posts: 17
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| Please tell me how to get "support" to respond to my E-mails. |
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rtg42
High Card
Joined: 24 Jul 2007
Posts: 1
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: bonus |
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| iraise2 wrote: |
got sucked into trying to get a bonus....what a joke.........nearly a week
and 200 lost and not even close to a bonus......not even $7 yet.
wish there was some place else to play with lots of playrs id go there right away.....also don't think anything is randome on this site
the bad beats are constant and the big stacks always seem to hit hand
after hand..........just a fact on this site |
Nothing is random here.... EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!! If a guy needs a certain suit on the river (1 in 4 odds or 25% chance), that suit will come off on the river 99.99999% percent of the time!!!!! If a guy needs a certain card like a queen or something to make a straight on the river (a 7% chance), that card comes off 50% to 60% of the time..... THIS SITE IS SO RIGGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT SUCKS!!!!!!!.... I have NEVER seen the guy that makes the right move at the right time with the best hand win. |
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Flying_Kiwi
Message Board Junkie
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 5125
Location: Honky's class reunion
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| Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: bonus |
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| rtg42 wrote: |
| If a guy needs a certain suit on the river (1 in 4 odds or 25% chance), that suit will come off on the river 99.99999% percent of the time!!!!! |
Therein lies your problem
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RBasil
High Card
Joined: 26 Jul 2007
Posts: 9
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| G316K wrote: |
| Please tell me how to get "support" to respond to my E-mails. |
The only way is to deposit $10,000 or more into your account. Otherwise they don't care. |
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