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Strasse · Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject: Comments or suggestions?

I don't see any way I could have played this different. Is it just one of those times to go broke?

Full Tilt Poker Game #1225721311: Satellite to FTOPS Event #1 (8465103), Table 4 - 20/40 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo - 18:14:35 ET - 2006/11/10
Seat 1: FishHook0130 (1,328)
Seat 2: DFI (2,288)
Seat 3: uh-oh (1,335)
Seat 4: Strasse (1,603)
Seat 5: chiptaker488 (1,365)
Seat 6: sameshtdiffday (3,524)
Seat 7: propokerschool (1,875)
Seat 8: maddog8 (1,265)
Seat 9: res222 (1,827)
Strasse posts the small blind of 20
chiptaker488 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Strasse [Kc 2h Ac 3h]
sameshtdiffday folds
propokerschool calls 40
maddog8 folds
res222 calls 40
FishHook0130 calls 40
DFI calls 40
uh-oh folds
Strasse raises to 280
chiptaker488 folds
propokerschool calls 240
res222 calls 240
FishHook0130 calls 240
DFI folds
*** FLOP *** [As Ks 8c]
Strasse bets 1,200
propokerschool calls 1,200
res222 raises to 1,547, and is all in
chiptaker488: Ah, so Im guessing NLHE is your main game??
FishHook0130 calls 1,048, and is all in
Strasse: no, stud
chiptaker488: GL
Strasse calls 123, and is all in
propokerschool calls 347
res222 shows [Ad 8d 8h 2d]
FishHook0130 shows [6d 3s 2s Qh]
Strasse shows [Kc 2h Ac 3h]
propokerschool shows [Td Qs Js Jd]
chiptaker488: ah studs a good game
*** TURN *** [As Ks 8c] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [As Ks 8c 7s] [3d]
res222 shows three of a kind, Eights, for high
res222 shows 8,7,3,2,A, for low
propokerschool shows a flush, Ace high, for high
propokerschool wins high side pot #2 (224) with a flush, Ace high
res222 wins low side pot #2 (224) with 8,7,3,2,A
Strasse shows two pair, Aces and Kings, for high
Strasse shows 8,7,3,2,A, for low
propokerschool wins high side pot #1 (413) with a flush, Ace high
Strasse ties for low side pot #1 (206) with 8,7,3,2,A
res222 ties for low side pot #1 (206) with 8,7,3,2,A
FishHook0130 shows a flush, Ace high, for high
FishHook0130 shows 7,6,3,2,A, for low
propokerschool wins the high main pot (2,696) with a flush, Ace high
FishHook0130 wins the low main pot (2,696) with 7,6,3,2,A
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6,665 Main pot 5,392. Side pot 1 825. Side pot 2 448. | Rake 0
Board: [As Ks 8c 7s 3d]
Seat 1: FishHook0130 showed [6d 3s 2s Qh] and won (2,696) with HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 7,6,3,2,A
Seat 2: DFI folded before the Flop
Seat 3: uh-oh (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Strasse (small blind) showed [Kc 2h Ac 3h] and won (206) with HI: two pair, Aces and Kings; LO: 8,7,3,2,A
Seat 5: chiptaker488 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: sameshtdiffday didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: propokerschool showed [Td Qs Js Jd] and won (3,333) with HI: a flush, Ace high
Seat 8: maddog8 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: res222 showed [Ad 8d 8h 2d] and won (430) with HI: three of a kind, Eights; LO: 8,7,3,2,A

DJ Ninjah · Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject:

This is a tough situation, but there are a few flaws in it that I think you should keep it mind.

1. I love this hand PF, I will raise it indiscriminately. However, you raised too much. This is not a hand to isolate. Now granted everyone called anyway, and you may have had that read on the table, but I generally don't like to raise it more than 3x, even with limpers. It also makes it easier to get way from after the flop if thing don't go well (is a HUGE drawing hand, but it's still drawing).

2. Terrible bet on the flop. I understand you are representing a set of aces here, but THEY sure as hell don't understand that. I've seen a few of these satellite events and the play in them is absolutely atrocious. You've got the three stooges acting behind you and a lot of players will call any pair PF, playing as they would in HE. Top two is just too vulnerable to play like that. Some moron will call their low draw, and more than likely there is a flush draw out there. Get just one of them to call, and the rest will call automatically. I'd check here and see how the betting goes, I might be inclined to draw for the low, but in all likely hood, the set of 8's pots, and I'd say you should fold your nut low draw. It's far too early to put your life on the line for a draw at MAYBE half the pot. You are a better player than probably everyone else at the table, let a few of the maniacs take each other out, and then step in and rock the table.

3. Got counterfitted on the low, sucks a lot, but this is why when you are putting the majority of your chips on the line for a low draw you need to have a redraw.

In short, you took a great hand PF, and fell in love with it when you hit a maringal flop. If the stacks were deeper, or the pot smaller, you might be able to play with this a little. In fact, mistake number one, directly led to mistake number two here.

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