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CoolFin69
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:32 am    Post subject: Is this a "bad beat"? Reply with quote

Is this a "bad beat"?

FullTiltPoker Game #218809677: Table Play Chip 29 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:28:28 ET - 2005/09/15
Seat 1: the cut (7,500)
Seat 2: da1stunna (8,000)
Seat 3: CoolFin69 (251,079)
Seat 4: IgotzdaNutz (59,300)
Seat 5: getEMhi (27,214)
Seat 6: Tripod (19,800)
Seat 7: Amazon Steele (19,800)
Seat 8: evaward (137,300)
Seat 9: Hassan74 (0), is sitting out
CoolFin69: gd
CoolFin69 posts the small blind of 100
IgotzdaNutz posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CoolFin69 [7d 7s]
Hassan74 stands up
getEMhi folds
Tripod folds
Amazon Steele calls 200
getEMhi: u would have hit?
evaward calls 200
the cut folds
OFFSPRING sits down
CoolFin69 raises to 14,400
OFFSPRING adds 20,000
IgotzdaNutz raises to 59,300, and is all in
Amazon Steele folds
evaward folds
CoolFin69: pair yes
CoolFin69 calls 44,900
IgotzdaNutz shows [5h Kh]
CoolFin69 shows [7d 7s]
*** FLOP *** [Ks 5d 3s]
*** TURN *** [Ks 5d 3s] [6s]
CoolFin69: nh
*** RIVER *** [Ks 5d 3s 6s] [8d]
IgotzdaNutz shows two pair, Kings and Fives
CoolFin69 shows a pair of Sevens
IgotzdaNutz wins the pot (119,000) with two pair, Kings and Fives
da1stunna: nh
IgotzdaNutz: ty
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 119,000 | Rake 0
Board: [Ks 5d 3s 6s 8d]
Seat 1: the cut (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: da1stunna is sitting out
Seat 3: CoolFin69 (small blind) showed [7d 7s] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 4: IgotzdaNutz (big blind) showed [5h Kh] and won (119,000) with two pair, Kings and Fives
Seat 5: getEMhi didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Tripod didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Amazon Steele folded before the Flop
Seat 8: evaward folded before the Flop
Seat 9: Hassan74 is sitting out
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torgeauxSA
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Joined: 26 Jun 2005
Posts: 137

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, but it's not obvious. Because you got all the money in pre-flop, let's look at the odds then:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1220781
pokenum -h 7d 7s - 5h kh
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7s 7d 1135521 66.32 568744 33.22 8039 0.47 0.666
Kh 5h 568744 33.22 1135521 66.32 8039 0.47 0.334

So, you were a 2 to 1 favorite, and lost. Not horrendous or anything, but a bad beat. The real question is why you bet so hard on that tiny a PP? I won't ask a similar question of your opponent, as it's clear he was making an ill-conceived attempt to push you off your cards.
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Jaconda78
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confused - why did you raise to 72 times the big blind? That's ridiculous! I guess I just don't understand the dynamics of play chips, but that kind of thing right there is why play chippers tend to do badly when they first switch over to the real thing.
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Zuchov
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Joined: 29 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, this is not a bad beat. Why? BECAUSE IT'S PLAY MONEY. Your play chip bankroll is worth exactly what it was before this happened - $0.00.
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CoolFin69
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love play money beats...

FullTiltPoker Game #220432888: Table Play Chip 307 - 5/10 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:00:38 ET - 2005/09/16
Seat 3: locomojo (575)
Seat 4: CoolFin69 (2,930)
Seat 5: cheshire21 (2,560)
Seat 6: starjumper (4,950)
locomojo posts the small blind of 5
CoolFin69 posts the big blind of 10
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CoolFin69 [7h 5h]
CoolFin69: LMAO
CoolFin69: great hand!
cheshire21 has 15 seconds left to act
starjumper: ty
cheshire21 raises to 560
starjumper: lmao?
starjumper calls 560
locomojo raises to 575, and is all in
CoolFin69: wish the flop was bigger against those !#!%ty hands
CoolFin69: lol
CoolFin69: I had AQs
CoolFin69 calls 565
cheshire21 calls 15
starjumper calls 15
*** FLOP *** [5d Tc 2s]
CoolFin69: LMAO means laughing my #&% off
CoolFin69 bets 460
starjumper: ok
cheshire21 calls 460
starjumper calls 460
*** TURN *** [5d Tc 2s] [8s]
CoolFin69 checks
cheshire21 checks
starjumper bets 3,915, and is all in
CoolFin69 calls 1,895, and is all in
cheshire21 folds
starjumper shows [As Kh]
locomojo shows [Ac 3h]
CoolFin69 shows [7h 5h]
Uncalled bet of 2,020 returned to starjumper
*** RIVER *** [5d Tc 2s 8s] [Kc]
starjumper shows a pair of Kings
CoolFin69 shows a pair of Fives
starjumper wins the side pot (5,170) with a pair of Kings
CoolFin69: OMFG
locomojo shows Ace King high
starjumper wins the main pot (2,300) with a pair of Kings
locomojo is sitting out
CoolFin69 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7,470 Main pot 2,300. Side pot 5,170. | Rake 0
Board: [5d Tc 2s 8s Kc]
Seat 3: locomojo (small blind) showed [Ac 3h] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 4: CoolFin69 (big blind) showed [7h 5h] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 5: cheshire21 folded on the Turn
Seat 6: starjumper (button) showed [As Kh] and won (7,470) with a pair of Kings
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mistaken69
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this post made me laugh harder then i have in weeks Laughing
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