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Paprika · Full House Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 194

Generally , what can I expect if I were to jump into the avergage $1-2 stud live game? Does it play like the .25-50 online game where there is about 5-7 seeing 5th even with any raises? Looser than that or tighter or does it vary a lot?

IABoomer · Moderator Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 4366

I haven't played stud live, but for most other games, the rule seems to be about 4:1 live/online. So a 1-2 live game will probably play like a .25-.50 game online.

If 1-2 is the lowest level available at the casino, then that's where the tourist types with little to no understanding of the mathematics behind poker will play. So, expect too many people in too many pots chasing too many longshot draws and too much variance. Smile

Paprika · Full House Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 194

In other words, big pairs, good two pair and possibly sets won't hold up all the time I would think.

clussman · Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject:

byamamoto1 · Bay Area Bidness Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 2189

the 1/2 live games are extremely fishy. i play them often and usually you have will have 7 to 8 players see 4th street regardless. usually about 6 on 5th and by the end of the hand there are usually at least 3 people to the end. its much harder to push anyone out with premium holdings, so you have to approach the hand more cautiously. for the most part, the people who play in those games are actually terrible players, and the winning ones are usually the ones are just catching hands.

the games really do play like the .25/.50 games, where people will inanely call with terrible hole cards, only to hit perfect on each street. you just have to be patient, and pick prime spots to try and mix it up. live draws, straights and flushes, are very playable in this game. i'll play live wired pairs until 5th then release if i don't hit. sets are usually good in this game and if you can hit one, usually you'll get paid off. big pairs like AA or KK, are much harder to play since you can't really protect in the beginning. those who want to chase are going to chase regardless. you just need to keep putting in bets when you are ahead and slow down when the boards get scary.

Paprika · Full House Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 194

OKay, the concensus seems to be here and elsewhere that the 1-2 studprobably isn't the way to go. If I step it up to say 3-6 and higher is the play overall tight or is there still a lot to see 5th street or more? Is 1-5 spread worth a try or pretty much the same as 1-2?

junkbutton · Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:01 am Post subject:

I've never played stud live, and always wonderred... If you're sitting on one end of the table, how the heck do you see your opponents cards on the other end? I have a hard enough time seeing half way across the table to see the board when playing hold 'em....

Paprika · Full House Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 194

Funny that you mention that because I felt like I needed glasses almost because I was at the far end at my last session live. I got a few seat cushions to get me up a bit higher in the seat and that helped a little bit. I had a bit of a tough time seeing all the cards and trying to keep a somewhat accurate count of cards that were out as well as folded cards. That is really important in this game as you probably know. I guess asking to move to another seat if it comes open is one way.

Kloaked Spirit · Royal Flush Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 869

byamamoto1 · Bay Area Bidness Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 2189

Paprika · Full House Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 194

Why would you want tight play? You want to be at the tables where you get a bunch of idiots going to 5th and beyond. That's how you make the most money. I'd imagine 1-5 spread will probably be about the same as $1-$2 in terms of fishy play.

From what I've heard, the 1-2 live is call call call but fold to any raise. Kind of makes it hard to make any loot I would think. If you can't raise in any poker game than what do you have?

Kloaked Spirit · Royal Flush Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 869

All you'd do is just lead out with the best hand often. Plus if it was really a case where everyone folds to a raise, then wouldn't that make the game even easier? You could get by on bluffing constantly by just raising whenever you have crap. Then everyone would believe you while at a tougher game people would take the time to think things through and catch you on those types of bluffs.

Paprika · Full House Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 194

Good points Kloaked-I may give it a shot next . I will let you know how it goes. In a typical casino 1-2 stud game what is the normal ante and bring in? Similiar to online?

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