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DRay
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 Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: Lederer's Limit DVD - Reviews? |
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| Anyone recommend this? Thinking about getting it with my points. |
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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It's pretty good.
He recommends opening the pot when you play. If you can't raise pre-flop, fold. It's a good way to play, but doesn't always work at the lower limits. There's also some good info on buying free cards by raising with draws.
Lederer's a top LHE player, so he knows what he's talking about. |
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griffinlord
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| BOYNAMEDSUE wrote: |
It's pretty good.
He recommends opening the pot when you play. If you can't raise pre-flop, fold. It's a good way to play, but doesn't always work at the lower limits. |
Do you mean open raise or raise preflop everytime you play?
As a way of chasing people out, I agree open raising (or just raising) doesn't work at the lower limits. But as a way of evaluating your hand strength/position I really like this approach.
If you are EP and see 78s are you opening for a raise? Not likely. So you shouldn't limp there either.
I'm not sure I'm making sense here. If not, say so and I'll try again. |
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UFO1947
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| sorry to Hijack, but is Phil Gordon's green book the one about playing at the micro limits? |
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XNoLimitPlayaX
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| Any other reviews? |
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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| Last week I had the privilege of seeing John Pinette's stand-up comedy show, I Say Nay Nay. He talked a lot about dieting, his stint on Broadway (playing a woman in Hairspray) and ended with a couple of his classic bits, Water Park, Wizard of Oz buffet and Chinese buffet. He brought the house down. He didn't just get applause, he got Chris Rock applause. |
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XNoLimitPlayaX
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This strategy seems to have a high amount of variance, from the times I have used it at the low limit tables. Basically, in the video he explains if there is a limper or two..to just go ahead and still raise as if you were opening. It seems to be really effective if you have a passive table that will fold a lot if they don't hit.
Lederer provides a unique strategy (raise only pre-flop unless you are in the blinds) in this video, but I do wish he would explain his pre-flop strategy, with limpers involved, a bit more. |
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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| Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| With limpers I believe he says to still raise, but to be more selective with hands you raise with. It's a good system, but not for micro-limits. For micros try reading Lee Jones' book, 'Winning Low Limit Holdem' or Matthre Hilger's book, 'Internet Texas Holdem'. |
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junkbutton
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| BOYNAMEDSUE wrote: |
| Last week I had the privilege of seeing John Pinette's stand-up comedy show, I Say Nay Nay. He talked a lot about dieting, his stint on Broadway (playing a woman in Hairspray) and ended with a couple of his classic bits, Water Park, Wizard of Oz buffet and Chinese buffet. He brought the house down. He didn't just get applause, he got Chris Rock applause. |
I love John Pinette... I haven't seen him live yet, but I will. |
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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| BOYNAMEDSUE wrote: |
| Last week I had the privilege of seeing John Pinette's stand-up comedy show, I Say Nay Nay. He talked a lot about dieting, his stint on Broadway (playing a woman in Hairspray) and ended with a couple of his classic bits, Water Park, Wizard of Oz buffet and Chinese buffet. He brought the house down. He didn't just get applause, he got Chris Rock applause. |
I love John Pinette... I haven't seen him live yet, but I will. |
I highly recommend it junk. He killed! I saw Lewis Black a few weeks prior, and John Pinette made him look like an amateur. John Pinette rocks. Oh, and I have a deep respect for comedians who don't swear. The jokes just seems more pure. Pinette cursed once, maybe twice the whole 100 minutes he was on stage. |
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