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Joe_King · Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: Am I a A$$ for reporting this

I was playing a $1:25 45 person SNG yesterday and down to the last 2 tables or so and i just got moved to a table where there was a player who said he "had to go" and was calling out his hands and than moving all in and sucking out on EVERYBODY.Me included
Here is a bit of his chat

MAN: I got 9 a
MAN: take my chips please
MAN: take em
MAN: stone help me out
Mateorocks (Observer): lol
Soul Stone: hahaha
Soul Stone: crazy
MAN: unreal
Mateorocks (Observer): definitely funnier than my
table
MAN: cmon stone theyre all yours plus 1st
place

MAN: Ive won the last 6
MAN: a j any takesfor all in
MAN: help me stone
MAN: q 4

I reported him and Support has turned his chat off

Flying_Kiwi · Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject:

At the risk of being an A$$ I think you did the right thing to report this. This kind of thing makes the table almost unplayable. I am a strong believer that if you want/have to leave a tournament, have 1 shot at an all-in (without calling out your cards) and if you double/no callers then check the sit out box and be blinded out while you are absent. It's the only fair way to do it.

ADDED: The "it's only $1" notion is besides the point really. If someone gets away with illegal moves at low limits, they will carry on to try it at higher limits. And for some people that $1 could be the last of their deposit.

pitka · High Card Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 14

Going all-in every hand and hoping for a few doubleups is a reasonable strategy if one has to leave as it gives you your best shot at making the money while being blinded off. What this guy did is not just unethical but illegal. Unfortunately, you see this sort of thing all the time. There's an unspoken but widely followed fallacy among Internet players that one must lose (dump off) all one's chips if one has to leave while a tournament is still in progress. Total BS. Just sit out and be blinded off or try the all-in method, but obviously without announcing your cards and trying to dump off all your chips.

01baz · Message Board Junkie Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 1904

hmmmm i personally wouldnt find the time to report him, but its still against the rules calling your hand, and if its your last dollar i ges ud have the right to be pissed

acesfullokings9 · Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:43 am Post subject:

No problems with reporting him, pepole should take the rules seriously no matter what the stakes.

JetsFan28 · Royal Flush Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 799 Location: NY

what if he builds his bankroll up and is playing high limits and does that? i think u had to report him

1Evildude · Full House Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 194

Is it wrong to say what you have? Even if your trying to be deseptive?

Because I have said what I had before, only to get more people in the pot.

Muskogee Mike · Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject:

You can say anything about your hand as long as you don't tell the truth. Kinda weird, but that's the way it is. If he wants to go all-in, that is a decision he is allowed to make. Calling out his hand, however, is against the rules, and he needs to be reported. If he has to go, he can just leave and get blinded out.

clussman · Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject:

I thought announcing your cards was improper but not against any actual written rule. The announcers kept complaining about Jamie Gold announcing his hands at the ME but he never got into any trouble for doing it.

Muskogee Mike · Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject:

Robert's Rules of Poker states:

The following actions are improper, and grounds for warning, suspending, or barring a violator:

Revealing the contents of a live hand in a multihanded pot before the betting is complete.

You can read it for yourself at http://www.homepokertourney.com/docs/rulebook/roberts-rules-of-poker-version-7-fullsize.pdf. It is on page 2 under "Poker Etiquette."

krazybangs · Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject:

Once again its just poor ettiquette cause the suck outs happen. He should just have clicked sit out and kept the fighting over the blinds the risk players will take as opposed to risking a stack.

doubledownA · Banned Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 3323

reminds me of the recent WSOP ME winner

GoldenDomer9 · Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject:

I personally don't think you should have reported him. He's just trying to leave. I don't find it a big deal.

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