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Jobe Gilchrist · Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject:

What the hell ever happened to Republicans being against big government? That was one of the main pillars of their platform, if you can even call it that. Now you basically have two types of Republicans: religious people who think religion is important enough to vote accordingly, and rich people who think greed is important enough to vote accordingly. Way to completely abandon one of the core values of your party.

Strasse · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:04 am Post subject:

Vote Libertarian!!!!

griffinlord · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:58 am Post subject:

deadmoney314 · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:08 am Post subject:

not to get off on a political rant, because I hate seeing posts with headlines such as this get bumped to the top. But this Mark Foley scandal is pretty sickening. It looks like House leader Hastert (R) accepted $100,000 check from Foley (R) (the rep that was trying to molest 16 year old male congressional pages) after learning of the harassment and now is trying to deny ever knowing anything. There are other reps that are now confirming reports that Hastert knew for at least 6 months and there are even rumors that the guy in charge of Republican house pages has been running a pedophilic service and up to 70 congressmen are involved. I.e. this is tip of the iceberg crap we are hearing, GOP analysts actually think they could lose both the house AND senate now over this scandal.
Which is the reason I bring this up because with both houses dem, we might be able to get an exemption for online poker (like horseracing) however I could see veto coming from bush in which case I don't know if an override would be able to go through even with a lot of lobby money thrown in from the sites. In which case we may just have to wait till 2008, and then FTP will open servers that are taxable etc in the U.S. and become the #1 site crushing previous PP revenues Smile

kcbradygirl · High Card Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 3

The online gaming this is absolutely baffling.

I called my US Senators this morning, both Republican, and said that their parties' attachment of this to the Port Security Bill and the Foley mess lost my support. End of discussion. Although one of the bimbettes actually tried to say the online gaming bill was part of the Port Security Bill that everyone passed. Actually part of the conversation with one staffer...

Senate Staffer: Ma'am, democrats also supported this weekend's bill in question, which is designed to make our ports more secure.

Me: Well, sadly, I am a voter who actually understands what happened, and I don't think there's any politician who is going to give their opposing party the ammo of 'Senator. X voted AGAINST securing our ports' 4 weeks prior to a very important election. Nice of you to assume I'm a garden variety idiot, but not so much. Additionally, I wholeheartedly appreciate your party's wanting me to be as safe from terrorism as I will be against my AA getting sucked out by J3 on the river.

Senate Staffer: Online Gambling is becoming a big problem with many in your state.

Me: I appreciate your concern, but it seems a bigger problem is how many Republicans in elected office are covering for their pedophile coworkers? That strikes me as a bigger issue, and I would appreciate it if Senator ____ would put some of his political muscle behind tougher child predator laws.

I wrote it because I wanted to say the same thing to both Senator's.

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I am livid that Frist popped this on saying he was 'protecting families', yet Foley, head of the Missing and Exploited Children group in congress, was protected by his brethren. So protecting families from gambling..good. protecting children from Foley...not so much.

I mean, gambling is a niche business. So it's very easy to take a stand and not worry about offending a huge voting block. I get that. I don't like it, but in political terms, it's kinda like betting on a straight AND flush draw. Pretty good odds in your favor.

My main objection is Frist throwing this moralizing crap how he's trying to protect families, yet Foley was allowed to continue his proclivities without any concern for it's affect on families (and if the speaker of the house knew, as it's becoming clear, I find it almost impossible that the majority leader wasn't aware as well.) The selective morality these Washington leaders apply is truly a marvel!

fiadmin · Straight Flush Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 407

Ok � I�m tired of the crap.

All of you are pissed at Frist for playing to his constituency, but are giving the Democrats sanctuary when they played to theirs. Where were all of these freedom loving Democrats when your liberties were being taken from you? They were hiding behind the �We can�t vote against a port security bill or it will be used against us�. I have not heard one Democrat stand up and declare that on-line poker is a good thing and should be protected. I have not heard a single Democrat stand up and ask President Bush to veto this bill because it tramples on the freedoms of the on-line poker community. I haven�t even heard one of them stand up and say that poker isn�t hurting anyone and should be left alone.

Washington is full of politicians, lawyers, lobbyists and press. They are all interested in the same think. Getting and keeping power. Everyone in Washington has an agenda.
You have been betrayed by all of the politicians in Washington, not just one side. It is appropriate to ask every Republican why they attached this to the port security bill. It is also appropriate to ask every Democrat why they did not oppose it. When they tell you it is because they couldn�t oppose a port security bill and get re-elected; ask what other of your freedoms they were willing to give away so they could get re-elected. Their re-election was more important than your freedoms.

If you want to be pissed off at the folks that passed this law, be honest enough to be pissed off at ALL of them.

Jobe Gilchrist

UFO1947 · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject:

doubledownA · Banned Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 3323

Bush lovers arent welcome here fiadmin, Im sure they have a forum somewhere...I think Bible.com...where they are hailing Bush and all the other freaks who hide behind Jesus as they kill off our youth or molest kids. Seems to be that most of these replublican freaks are pretty happy that the demons that cause us to gamble online, will soon be excercised from the American people.

Jobe Gilchrist · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject:

It doesn't speak well for Democrats when you make such an ignorant post like that. Given the way you usually act, I'm incredibly surprised you're not a Republican.

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deadmoney314 · Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject:

There was more than just the great dem from NV that spoke out against attaching this online ban to port security. The reasoning was that it was unrelated and much more important issues that were actually related to port security such as funding ailing mass transit were ignored. I don't suppose any of you actually tried to tune in cspan or do research on this (the posts that claim dems sat back and did nothing). Are you saying dems should have voted "no, we shouldn't get port security through because online gaming is too important". You are out of your mind, and the people that had the control of what got added were not dems and in fact it was specifically Frist (R). If dems had control of congress, this would not have happened and we would have funding for mass transit. And yes I am also getting tired of beating this dead horse, its simply a time for a change so that a small group of neo-con pedophillic power mongers aren't dictating choices for the masses.

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