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CrazyJoeDavola
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| It's high time someone w/ the balls like Michael Savage steps up and runs for office, he's one of the few that has a national stage and uses it to speak the truth, and isn't swayed by the corruption of greed. Politicians have become a dismal disgrace regardless of party affiliation. |
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The_OG_Rocco
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Joined: 31 May 2006
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Location: Texas
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| CrazyJoeDavola wrote: |
| It's high time someone w/ the balls like Michael Savage steps up and runs for office, he's one of the few that has a national stage and uses it to speak the truth, and isn't swayed by the corruption of greed. Politicians have become a dismal disgrace regardless of party affiliation. |
Bravy Crazy Joe!! You are right on the money! Thank God there are actually some folks here in this forum who have the caJones to stand up for opinions which may be 'politically incorrect' or 'unpopular'.
Most popular people suck a$$ anyways.  |
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risingalan
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Location: Washington DC
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Once again, all someone can say is... "that's politics for ya."
I think we all knew this was coming, we just didn't think it would happen so soon. Sure it sucks and sure we are going to try and go against it, but I guess I will be a pessimist and just say 'fun while it lasted'. I give kudos to the Poker Alliance more power to them, good job for standing up for what you believe in, but I really don't think it will change anything. |
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sprstoner
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Joined: 26 Sep 2006
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Location: vegas
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| Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| People wake up, the government is trying to control our lives. |
I modified your quote to make it a bit more accurate. Its what governments do.
(added because of a gogzy? post in similar thread)
P.S. That is the reason the 2nd admendment exists - they felt it was a safeguard. |
+1
also read the instructions in the declaration of I |
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pablolee
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Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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@The_OG_Rocco
I agree with your point that both parties are bad/ corrupt in their own ways. I Totally disagree with
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Todays Democrats are'nt any better at protecting our freedoms than the Republicans. BOTH partys are fkng corrupt to the core. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Exclamation Exclamation
We need a revolution to put some new blood into the white house. Say something like; "The Revolutionist Party". That has a nice ring to it. Wink |
You seem to say that because the two parties are corrupt, we need another party to come into power that isn't corrupt, problem is that you missed the point that your partial quote “Absolute power corrupts absolutely.” was originally meant to make:
It was Lord Acton who originally coined
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| Power Corrupts, absolute power… |
and the context of the quote is
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| The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern...Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." |
The point is that corruption is inevitable when a single person (or group of people) is given power. Therefore a Revolution would simply end with the same result, a corrupt ruling Junta as bad as the existing 2 parties.
The point is to show that the people will remove “absolute power” i.e. remove the power from the existing rulers and give it to someone else (i.e. a revolution) by voting for another party along with the threat that if they step out of line, they in turn will be ousted. The idea being that they will curb their excessively corrupt practices.
Your attitude towards Fire_eyes was totally out of order. You call him arrogant, why? Because he disagrees with you and used a quote from the same author who also wrote your quote? (which, as I say, was originally from Lord Acton). That implies an implicit belief in your right to be correct, which is the truly arrogant stance. Reel your neck in, chill out. Curb your aggression when someone disagrees with you, if you don’t, you simply come off looking like a childish fool who stamps his feet when someone doesn’t go along with what you say.
As for the homophobic vitriol that seems to regularly spout from your fingertips, hmmm, I'm sure some serious psychoanalysis would reveal some deep rooted tendencies and feelings there.  |
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The_OG_Rocco
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Joined: 31 May 2006
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Location: Texas
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:41 am Post subject: |
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As for the homophobic vitriol that seems to regularly spout from your fingertips, hmmm, I'm sure some serious psychoanalysis would reveal some deep rooted tendencies and feelings there. |
Hmmmmm......you are right on the money honey
So get on your knees and bark, bcuz Im gonna do you doggy style you sweet thing you. |
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The_OG_Rocco
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: Re: STOP VOTING REPUBLICAN, INTERNET GAMBLING BANNED |
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| The_OG_Rocco wrote: |
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"Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship."
Another quote from George Orwell for you, but I guess that doesnt support your 'argument' |
So I guess, according to Orwell and you, when our forefathers revolted against the British Govt., They were establishing this country with the intent of it being ruled by a 'Dictatorship'?! 
You are full of crap. You arrogant a$$.  
Are you an Jobegilchrist butt buddys or something, because you sound just like him???
Thanks for your lame argument. |
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pablolee
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 LMAO, nice one but not my particular taste. I like the ladies, but thanks for the offer . |
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The_OG_Rocco
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| Do'nt knock it until you've tried it....sailor.... |
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pablolee
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babasofa
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| :sftrco: my government... |
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nathanthomp
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| :sftrco: my government... |
Oh great...
EDIT: baba guru wasn't able to spell a word as complex as government, so I guess its not him. The post content is similar, however. |
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Eminaku
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Crimson Aces
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Joined: 03 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: The issue is primarly a tax issue not morality... |
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First of all let me come out of the closet here and say that I’m a proud conservative, registered republican and avid poker player both online and live whenever I get a chance. Like most of you I’m very disappointed in this legislation and think that it’s a huge mistake for republicans to make a move like this.
Regardless of how stupid this is politically, and despite what some of those posting on this thread may think, this legislation is not being pursued on moral grounds…its purely financial. Unlike other forms of online gambling, poker has become a massive multi-billion dollar industry which the government can’t effectively tax. In general Republicans have been the party that stands for less government, lower taxes and more freedom, but it would seem that lately many of my party have lost their way and need to be replaced….but if you think this group is bad, you have no idea how bad it will be in just about every area of your lives if the Democrats ever come back into power.
The point I’m trying to get to is this, ultimately this country needs to go to a “Fair Tax” or consumption tax and do away with all income tax. This will change the way congress deals with issues like these because they won’t see untaxed income as a drain on the government, instead money won by the superior US poker players from overseas poker players will be spent here and with the taxes captured at the retail level. Of course this will also bring manufacturing, investment income and incredible economic growth to the country for other reasons but if you want to do something politically (Left or Right) start looking for candidates that will support a Fair Tax and getting rid of the IRS.
Just a thought… |
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nopepperjack
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Joined: 30 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject: This thread |
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It is kinda telling that Frist wants to run for President. It is too bad our current President doesn't have the strength of character to veto it. But he is on a "crusade" and can't be bothered with what the american people want.
From what I can find out, this is going to very hard to enforce. We may have to do all transactions through Neteller or some other offshore bank. I already do that, so this appers to have little effect on me. At least for now.
Frist may only be doing this for political reasons and may not care if it actually does stop gambling on the net.
I sincerely hope Frist looses his reelection or what ever office he runs for and I for one, will be happy to contribute to his opponent.
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