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KGBlovesOreos
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Here is an update on the total signatures:
2050 Signatures Total
I've gotten my entire family and group of friends to sign this petition. However, I did read something in the BLUFF forum about how online signatures can't do anything. Pen-and-paper petitions are actually the petitions that will help us. Is this true or not? If anybody knows, could they post a link? I myself haven't found anything (so far) online, but I'll keep looking. |
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clussman
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Location: Austin, TX
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Paper always carries more weight than online. A physical letter that you mail to your congressman has more weight than an email that you fire off to them. I know MoveOn usually prints their online petitions and then has them delivered to one or more congressmen, which should be just as effective. I would imagine any serious advocacy group would do the same.
PS I've updated my sig with what I think is a better petition as well as the PPA link. |
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4frodo
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Location: Minnesota
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Thanks Clussman,
I signed, but their site seems a little more radical. What I mean is they don't seem to be sticking strickly to the facts, blowing things a little out of purportion, spinning, etc.
I think too much of that might hurt our cause.
Also, it looks like it was just put up this morning. I wonder who is behind it.
The drawing for WSOP entry was a nice touch. |
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happyluckyfish
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| The petition is a nice thought, but too little too late. Congress already passed it. What good is petitioning gonna do now? Not that a few thousand online signatures out of a country of 300 million is gonna mean anything anyways. Petition to full tilt to stay open for US players, that will have more of an effect if the non US people threaten to leave full tilt. |
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CrazyJoeDavola
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Joined: 05 Oct 2005
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It truly is a load of crap. My take on this is they want to cripple online gaming, then have the online sites come begging to the US for them to cut a deal making it legal, with the govt. getting the "rake". These a-hole senators & congressman say it's a morality issue, give me a friggin break!
I sure don't see the slightest effort being put forth to stop the availability of extreme porn to kids of all ages, all the myspace "pedephelia playgrounds", the snuff-cams for homeless vs. homeless violence, etc, etc.
It's time to clean house and vote in people w/ true morals, and not those that are getting their bread-buttered from countless sources. |
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TABLEGOD
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Joined: 19 Sep 2006
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| As much as I used to consider me leaning towards the republican ideals, I am voting down the list all Democrat, I dont care what any of the Dems stand for, I do know what the Republicans stand for, getting votes, from special interests and businesses, also they want to let our churches take over also(for the right price), I see now difference in the Taliban and our current Republican Leaders, they both want to repress their citizens and use religion as an excuse, but they both are answering to money. what a sham |
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TABLEGOD
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| sorry i ment no difference not now |
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griffinlord
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Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Location: The Great Plains of South Dakota
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| happyluckyfish wrote: |
| The petition is a nice thought, but too little too late. Congress already passed it. What good is petitioning gonna do now? |
Congress makes laws, congress can unmake laws.
Pretty sure that a few thousand signatures isn't going to do it, but if you want to get something done you have to start somewhere.
Get poker players to sign a petition....the petition gets ignored.....many of those players direct their anger into campagning for pro-poker candidates....2-3 election cycles and suddenly congress has a bunch of pro-poker folks who do get around to changing the law. |
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htrain3434
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| I am surprised that full tilt and the other sites haven't sent out an email asking you sign the petition. There are so many people that don't know about this ban. I am telling as many people when I am playing, mostly on party poker. I am just shocked that the sites aren't getting together to try and do something before Bush signs the bill. They are probably going to file bankruptcy and keep all of our money. That does happen in the business world, expecially wall street. |
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ambitious207
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| I am surprised that full tilt and the other sites haven't sent out an email asking you sign the petition. There are so many people that don't know about this ban. I am telling as many people when I am playing, mostly on party poker. I am just shocked that the sites aren't getting together to try and do something before Bush signs the bill. They are probably going to file bankruptcy and keep all of our money. That does happen in the business world, expecially wall street. |
You are a little bit of a pessimist eh? |
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AlexScottUK
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Location: Isle of Man
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| htrain3434 wrote: |
| I am surprised that full tilt and the other sites haven't sent out an email asking you sign the petition. There are so many people that don't know about this ban. I am telling as many people when I am playing, mostly on party poker. I am just shocked that the sites aren't getting together to try and do something before Bush signs the bill. They are probably going to file bankruptcy and keep all of our money. That does happen in the business world, expecially wall street. |
I bet you 50p that no publicly floated internet gaming business files bankruptcy this year. No, lets get crazy. Make it £1. |
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Lew Nolan
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Location: Wenatchee, WA, USA
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| Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject: A Stupid Law by Stupid People |
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I am sure it has been suggested but I strongly urge that a list of Legislators who voted for this law be published
We are, as a group, only about 5 or 6 percent of the US population; but I bet we could make a considerable difference in the upcoming elections--- |
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htrain3434
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| htrain3434 wrote: |
| I am surprised that full tilt and the other sites haven't sent out an email asking you sign the petition. There are so many people that don't know about this ban. I am telling as many people when I am playing, mostly on party poker. I am just shocked that the sites aren't getting together to try and do something before Bush signs the bill. They are probably going to file bankruptcy and keep all of our money. That does happen in the business world, expecially wall street. |
I bet you 50p that no publicly floated internet gaming business files bankruptcy this year. No, lets get crazy. Make it £1. |
You are right, the public sites won't file bankruptcy, but the private ones will. |
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AlexScottUK
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| Only if they rely almost entirely on US business, which isn't the case for most of these sites. If you play somewhere reputable you have nothing to worry about. |
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jkw202
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Joined: 04 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: A Stupid Law by Stupid People |
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| Lew Nolan wrote: |
I am sure it has been suggested but I strongly urge that a list of Legislators who voted for this law be published
We are, as a group, only about 5 or 6 percent of the US population; but I bet we could make a considerable difference in the upcoming elections--- |
Poker Player Alliance site has the names listed and how they voted.
The real problem is that the Internet Gambling Bill was attached as a "rider" to the Safe Ports Bill which no politition in there right mind can say no to. Also, when it is attached as a rider there is no formal vote, just a verbal yea - nay. Our system is great, isn't it? |
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