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Online Poker Forum - My first and last session of PLO for a long time.

 
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ambitious207
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: My first and last session of PLO for a long time. Reply with quote

No joke. I decided to sit down at a $25 PLO ring at party. First hand out of the BB get dealt AAJJ. 3 limps, sb calls, I bet pot, 2 calls. Flop J88. I check (is this a bad play?) UTG bets 1/3 pot, Early pos. limper calls, I bet pot, UTG folds, EP pot bet all in. I have to call here, correct? EP flips up 8834. This is my first PLO session, and it was kind of dumb because I am not too prepared to sit in a game. I would just like to make sure that I didn't play the hand wrong. Thanks in advance.

PS...back to hold em rings
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mathman1115
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You were just unlucky here. In general you played the hand ok, but quads vs top boat is likely to have the same result no matter what.

How he called your preflop raise with 8834 i'll never know......
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ambitious207
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mathman1115 wrote:
You were just unlucky here. In general you played the hand ok, but quads vs top boat is likely to have the same result no matter what.

How he called your preflop raise with 8834 i'll never know......


Ya.. it just stinks. Someday I plan out branchint out to PLO but for right now my mind can only handle 1 game. I think that this is a sign. Thanks math
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Kloaked Spirit
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, everyone goes broke in that situation. There would be nothing you could do to get away from it.
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lesdoodis
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I love PLO and for this reason. It is more exciting and you have to be able to lay down good hands. I don't think I could have laid this down either but it all depends on who it is. I had a guy get quads on me yesterday and luckily I had the third best hand (small boat) and actually laid it down. But there is only one hand that beats you at that point so there isn't much you can do. PLO is a game of nutz, if you don't have them or close to them you shouldn't bet. I don't blame your check, I would have check/raised the pot in that situation. Just give the game a chance, you can make a nice little profit with some patience. Made about $200 this weekend at the .10/.25 PLO tables and only went to the well twice the whole weekend, each time making my money back and then some. Give the game a chance and I guarantee you will love it.
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dodge these
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just started playing Omaha a couple of days ago and quicly wound up winning almost 1k in a hef hours at 1/2PL... then just as quickly lost it all. Obviously some of that is due to inexperiance but the play is ridiculously bad. I have been playing 4 2 days and I can usulay spot a couple of fish right after sitting down! Now my question is when to get away from big hands if you actually manae to isolate a player preflop. or instance I had suited Aces with a suited K on the button and there is a raise and call before it gets to me so I bet the pot which is now close to $32 so it drives out all but the first limper.
Flop comes down 2J2 with 2 flush cards to one of my suited aces. Guy bets out the pot and I reraise the pot. Probably a mistake since he could have JJ if he is lose but I figure with my big raise he has KK maybe drawing to same flush so I have him crushed. Sure enough he reraise all in and I call to see him flip over J268 rainbow!!! I know to get away from aces and gings on a multyway pot like this but what should I do when I do manage to isolate against bad players. I've had this happen several times in the process of losing back my winnings so any advice is greatly appreciated.
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lesdoodis
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a big difference between Omaha and NLHE. In HE the chances of them flopping the boat with a board like that are pretty slim, but in Omaha with so many cards in play they could have a wide range of hands. That is why I don't play for a flush AT ALL with a paired board. If I flop it, I will bet to see where I stand but I won't be raising anyone and the second that board pairs I am out. It may not be the right move everytime, but it will save you money in the long run. When looking for weaker players to make money off of look for those who bet/call with a flush on a paired board. When you make a boat and there are flush possibilities you will most likely get paid off. Trust me, I used to be one of those who paid you off.
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dodge these
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally that is good advice with that many people with so many cards seeing a flop. But I figured since I did limp-raise the max to about a uarter of my stack and got heads up going to the flop I was prety safe. I figured worst I am loking at was a stray 2 in an otherwise great hand... Like I said I'm prety new to this game but know to let go of aces even with a flush draw if I am in a multi-way pot, but in this isnatance should I really assume he hit and fold to any raise?
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rawz
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way to get away from a hand like this is if you have very little in the pot . 9 times out of ten your gonna lose to quads cuz you just can't fold top boat unless you really know the player your in the hand with .
This week alone i've lost 3 times with aces full to quads, but what I have won far out ways the loss in these 3 particular hands . It cost me some cash but bought me some info on all 3 players .
8834 is weak and he will not be a winning player playing these types of hands on a regular basis .
Ohama is a great game if ya know when to fold and know when to chase, in this case you just got the bad end of the odds .
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Steamed Rice
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

standard call, but tough break

happened to me a few times as well

i wasnt too pleased
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