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blkhwk67t · Full House Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 172

I was just wondering how you guys would play when you are up against only one other opponent, have top pair top kicker, 3 of the same suit comes on the flop & you dont hold any of the suits. Example:

POKERSTARS GAME #6415197066: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/09/25 - 13:57:55 (ET)
Table 'Ortrud' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: blkhwk67t ($4.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Mergus ($40.35 in chips)
Seat 3: Huskie76 ($17.10 in chips)
Seat 4: porkygirl ($19.25 in chips)
Seat 5: kidroc ($18.10 in chips)
Seat 6: cougi ($19.80 in chips)
Seat 7: mikemuc1 ($17.25 in chips)
Seat 9: JamesTheLad ($27.60 in chips)
Seat 10: ses4j ($66.85 in chips)
JamesTheLad: posts small blind $0.25
ses4j: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to blkhwk67t [Ac Kd]
blkhwk67t: raises $0.50 to $1
Mergus: folds
Huskie76: folds
porkygirl: folds
kidroc: calls $1
cougi: folds
mikemuc1: folds
JamesTheLad: folds
ses4j: folds
*** FLOP *** [9s Ts As]
blkhwk67t: bets $0.50
kidroc: raises $0.50 to $1
blkhwk67t: raises $0.50 to $1.50
kidroc: raises $0.50 to $2
Betting is capped
blkhwk67t: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [9s Ts As] [5s]
blkhwk67t: bets $1
kidroc: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [9s Ts As 5s] [Tc]
blkhwk67t: bets $0.75 and is all-in
kidroc: calls $0.75
*** SHOW DOWN ***
blkhwk67t: shows [Ac Kd] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
kidroc: shows [Kh Ah] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
blkhwk67t collected $4.90 from pot
kidroc collected $4.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.25 | Rake $0.45
Board [9s Ts As 5s Tc]
Seat 1: blkhwk67t showed [Ac Kd] and won ($4.90) with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 2: Mergus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Huskie76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: porkygirl folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: kidroc showed [Kh Ah] and won ($4.90) with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 6: cougi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mikemuc1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: JamesTheLad (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 10: ses4j (big blind) folded before Flop

That hand led to this hand.

POKERSTARS GAME #6415297456: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/09/25 - 14:09:31 (ET)
Table 'Ortrud' 10-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: blkhwk67t ($10.45 in chips)
Seat 2: Mergus ($39.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Huskie76 ($19.60 in chips)
Seat 4: porkygirl ($17.75 in chips)
Seat 5: kidroc ($16.90 in chips)
Seat 6: cougi ($15.55 in chips)
Seat 9: JamesTheLad ($25.20 in chips)
Seat 10: ses4j ($67.95 in chips)
porkygirl: posts small blind $0.25
kidroc: posts big blind $0.50
draphosTBZ: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to blkhwk67t [Ad Kc]
cougi: raises $0.50 to $1
JamesTheLad: folds
ses4j: folds
blkhwk67t: calls $1
Mergus: folds
Huskie76: folds
porkygirl: folds
kidroc: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Ts 6s As]
kidroc: bets $0.50
cougi: folds
blkhwk67t: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [Ts 6s As] [2d]
kidroc: bets $1
blkhwk67t: calls $1
*** RIVER *** [Ts 6s As 2d] [5d]
kidroc: bets $1
blkhwk67t: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kidroc: shows [Js 9s] (a flush, Ace high)
blkhwk67t: shows [Ad Kc] (a pair of Aces)
kidroc collected $7.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.25 | Rake $0.35
Board [Ts 6s As 2d 5d]
Seat 1: blkhwk67t showed [Ad Kc] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: Mergus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Huskie76 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: porkygirl (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: kidroc (big blind) showed [Js 9s] and won ($7.90) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: cougi folded on the Flop
Seat 9: JamesTheLad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: ses4j folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I'm not really sure on how to proceed. Do I give him credit for the flush and fold? Do I slow down and call him down to the river? Or do I stay aggressive and make them pay a price to draw? Thanks in advance.

UFO1947 · Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject:

really the only to ways I can see playing both hands is either give it up or check call to the river.

mathman1115 · Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject:

Well, for limit, i push hard (bet, raise, reraise if possible) on the flop. If another suit comes on the turn, i definitely slow down, check calling turn and river. If not, i proceed with caution still, maybe just check calling all the way.

bigwheell · Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject:

First thing...you need to have enough chips to play the hand...Starting a hand with less than 5 bucks in .50/1.00 is not smart...If you flop a huge hand you will not get paid off correctly. I have won a couple of pots that had over 30BB's in them at this level and you need to have the chips in play to make the raises when you have the nuts...

I think you played the hand good preflop and on the flop, I would have figured him for a 4 flush on the flop with the capped betting. When the 4th suited card came in a heads up pot, I would go into check call mode and see the river cheaply...In a multi way pot, I would let the hand go on the turn...Someone will, just about all the time, have you beat with a flush.

In the second hand, Three bet preflop with your AK...Kid Rock may not call two bets out of the big blind with his weak gapped connectors.

I would have probably went to the river on this one too, as cheaply as possible...You have to play sheriff once in a while...

blkhwk67t · Full House Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 172

ok it happened to me again but this time I had the nut draw.

POKERSTARS GAME #6428085620: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/09/26 - 16:03:26 (ET)
Table 'Flora III' 10-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: couchGun ($9.60 in chips)
Seat 2: Penille ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 3: Bramagupta ($9.55 in chips)
Seat 4: blkhwk67t ($13.55 in chips)
Seat 5: postman321-4 ($2.10 in chips)
Seat 6: Stephen 333 ($19.55 in chips)
Seat 7: rennsen ($16.05 in chips)
Seat 8: djskyline ($26 in chips)
Seat 10: Ko_Onrad ($21.25 in chips)
postman321-4: posts small blind $0.10
Stephen 333: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to blkhwk67t [Qs Ah]
rennsen: folds
djskyline: folds
Ko_Onrad: folds
Jacob2242 has returned
couchGun: folds
Penille: folds
Jacob2242 leaves the table
Bramagupta: folds
blkhwk67t: raises $0.25 to $0.50
postman321-4: raises $0.25 to $0.75
Stephen 333: calls $0.50
blkhwk67t: raises $0.25 to $1
Betting is capped
postman321-4: calls $0.25
Stephen 333: calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [Ks As 8s]
postman321-4: bets $0.25
Stephen 333: calls $0.25
blkhwk67t: raises $0.25 to $0.50
postman321-4: raises $0.25 to $0.75
Stephen 333: folds
WarlordChom joins the table at seat #9
blkhwk67t: raises $0.25 to $1
Betting is capped
postman321-4: calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [Ks As 8s] [Qd]
postman321-4: bets $0.10 and is all-in
blkhwk67t: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [Ks As 8s Qd] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
postman321-4: shows [Kd Ac] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
blkhwk67t: shows [Qs Ah] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
postman321-4 collected $5.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.45 | Rake $0.25
Board [Ks As 8s Qd 5h]
Seat 1: couchGun folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Penille folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Bramagupta folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: blkhwk67t (button) showed [Qs Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 5: postman321-4 (small blind) showed [Kd Ac] and won ($5.20) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 6: Stephen 333 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: rennsen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: djskyline folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Ko_Onrad folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I was playing super aggressive and decided to cap preflop. When the flop hit and he reraised me I automatically put him on AK. I was also pushing him hard because of his short stack. Did I play this one right? How would you play it if the opponent had a full buy in? I'm not to sure on how I would go. I hit 2 pair on the turn, so that gave me additonal outs, but I knew I was still behind. I think, if he would of had a full buy in, I would have kept capping.

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